[ SECRET POST #2881 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2881 ⌋

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Comments

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[(Anonymous)]

This? This is what's wrong with fandom.

People ship Bond/M? Really? And James with the gadget kid?

It's James Bond, it's not like he doesn't have a canon sex life.

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[(Anonymous)]

lots of characters who get shipped with various people have canon sex lives. I'm not sure what your point is here

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[(Anonymous)]

Huh? What does that have to do with anything?

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[replicantangel]

What's wrong with fandom is people shipping who they want?

Yes, Bond has lots of sex (except Craig's Bond really has far less than his predecessors), but his established relationships are with M, Q and Moneypenny. They're the supporting characters with actual history and characterization, far beyond one movie/book.

Also, M and Bond have insane chemistry in "Skyfall" (Judi Dench in general is incredible throughout, but especially in her scenes with Daniel Craig). I didn't see it as romantic chemistry necessarily, but I can totally see how some people would. And older woman/younger man pairings are few and far between. More power to the fans of this pairing. Having the freedom to go outside the norm/canon/expected is kind of the point of fandom. I'd say these pairings are everything that's right and awesome about fandom.

Now if the fans of any pairing start haranguing writers/producers of the Bond films about making their ship canon and generally just making everyone else miserable, *that* is potentially what's wrong with fandom. But I'd say there are a lot of things "wrong" ahead of shipping who you want.

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't exactly ship Bond/M, but I do see a powerful emotional tie between them, or at least I see Bond as very attached to M. (In Quantum of Solace, Bond goes on a rampage that I think was largely motivated by the bad guys threatening M, and again, yeah, their chemistry in Skyfall was off the charts.) There are a ton of cool ways to address that in fic, so I can also imagine shipping the two characters.

So, um, yeah. What you said.

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[othellia]

And at the same time Q and M are the ones who get carried over from movie to movie. All his "canon sex life" love interests do not.

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[(Anonymous)]

Ironic icon is ironic.

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[(Anonymous)]

more like iconic

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[othellia]

Haha, didn't even think about that. Comes with the default icon territory, I suppose.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, and Bond's canon sex life is a giant snore-fest. Ohhh... he hooks up with a random hot chic who is likely to either be evil or get killed off by the bad guy. Lather, rinse, repeat... ad nauseam. That's inventive.

But Judi Dench is fierce and (though I despise the term) a total cougar and their interactions in films had that great antagonistic flavor with a bit of authority figure/rebellious underling who needs to be taught some manners vibe.

And Bond and Q may have only had like 10 minutes of screen time together but it was awesome, memorable screen time, full of banter and snark and intelligence. They played off each other so well that it was easy to see why the shippers latched on.

Those are the kind of interactions that are a lot more fun to explore in fanworks, rather than the same old, same old 'Bond + hot girl' equation.

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[(Anonymous)]

You must be new.

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[(Anonymous)]

Shipping isn't about taking characters who never have sex and getting them laid, dude. It's about hooking up two characters that you want to see together for whatever reason.

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[dreemyweird]

I think I just imagined shipping being this huge charity campaign for characters who never get laid.

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[(Anonymous)]

Da

A hugeass bachelor/bachorlette auction? I'm a sucker for those.

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[(Anonymous)]

I thought this was going to be a thread about e e cummings

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[(Anonymous)]

:rolls eyes harder:

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[(Anonymous)]

WOW SORRY

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[(Anonymous)]

OH NO NOT E E CUMMINGS

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[(Anonymous)]

Couldn't be. The underscore counts as punctuation.

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[anonymous4]

But you can't see the underscore when the comment has collapsed...

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[(Anonymous)]

http://i.imgur.com/qCvy2dM.png

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[anonymous4]

So did I!

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[(Anonymous)]

same

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[(Anonymous)]

Oh, your one of those canon purists, huh?

If you want canon, stick to the fucking books/movies and leave the rest of us who might want to explore outside the fucking lines the fuck alone!