[ SECRET POST #2888 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2888 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Alternative to the Bechdel Test?

[(Anonymous)]

I get where you're going with this, but here's the problem: the value of the Bechdel test is that it's completely objective. Yes, people cite a lot of examples of non-sexist works that don't pass it, but that's completely beside the point. It can't tell you anything about an individual film, but over large numbers it makes the status quo very clear. And it can do that because it's completely objective.

Your proposed test, like the Mako Mori test and others, is subjective. It requires judgment calls for each character, and opens itself up to endless quibbling. For example, Leia isn't Han Solo's girlfriend for the first movie or two, or for that matter, couldn't you just as easily say that Han has to be male because he's Leia's boyfriend? And so on.

There's no quibbling with the Bechdel. More than one named female character, talk to each other, not about a man. Yes, Street Fighter: The Movie passes and Pacific Rim doesn't, but that's not the point and never was.