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[ SECRET POST #2889 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2889 ⌋

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How many of you have heard about Inkstand? Apparently it's the ~revolutionary new website~ that will absolutely devastate tumblr when 1/4 of all tumblr users move to it.

Top ten reasons to switch to inkstand!

1. One of the developers is a trans woman, which automatically means that it's better!

2. Inkstand made a huge announcement before it even got into beta, because there's no way that that could be an issue! It's not even in alpha yet, but who cares?

3. People will still be able to hoard urls, after all "we’ve received concerns about this policy, so as of this moment, we haven’t got a clear policy besides “we want to address this.”" Is anyone else a little concerned by "we want to address this"? No one else? Okay.

4. "We’ll handle things on a case by case basis so as to determine whether or not something constitutes actual hate speech, as well" Ah yes, because you'll definitely have enough time and staff to do that, mmm-hmmm.

5. They're not going to work with the xKit guy because he's "problematic".

6. You can't have sideblogs, but you can have up to 20 blogs (50 if you're a premium user) that all have their own dashboard, because that's somehow different from tumblr? I'm not joking on this, I legitimately don't get how having different (not side) blogs on inkstand is different from having different (not side) blogs on tumblr.

7. The community will be in charge of deciding what's "obscene" or not, "Community as in the whole of Inkstand. We’re thinking of having a section of the site where reported posts and users can be looked over and considered by the community at large, to decide what should happen for some things." because there is literally no way that those can go wrong. ("As for historically censored things, we’ll abide by the community’s ruling and the team won’t treat them as a special case. We trust that the community’s judgement.")

8. Similarly, slurs will not be allowed in URL's, unless they're reclaimed slurs, in which case "the community" will be allowed to vote on whether or not they should be allowed or not. Because, literally, there is no way that that could go wrong! ("We’re thinking of putting slurs which might have been reclaimed to a vote, allowing the community to determine what will and will not be allowed in URLs.")

9. None of them have ever done anything like this, but who cares! It's "a learning experience. We have a clear end goal, and high standards for making this all work, and we have the means to make sure it does.", so experience doesn't even matter lmao.

10. It's better than tumblr! Even though it's not actually up yet, and we have no idea what it's going to look like! Also, this is totally reminiscent of the Arkh Project, or Dash-con, nope!

Where, mate? I ain't seeing it on google anywhere.

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Re: Inkstand

comradesmiler - 2014-11-30 21:31 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2014-11-30 21:33 (UTC) - Expand

So far it's only got a tumblr blog and a twitter.

Nothing will come of it. It will go the way of that other alternative site that people hailed as a new haven. What was it? Elle? Can't remember.

Ello?

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(Anonymous) - 2014-11-30 21:33 (UTC) - Expand

Oh, yeah, and the symbol for it looks like a penis, which according to the post I saw makes it even better? Apparently?

but i thought penises were evil tho

Re: Inkstand

(Anonymous) - 2014-11-30 21:32 (UTC) - Expand

That's what made me go 'lol nope' at the whole idea. A community that wants to be represented by a penis joke isn't one I want to be part of.

Anyways from this post it sounds like it's all going to go down in flames.

Yeah, the whole blacklist xkit guy, deciding whats obscence or not, and no slurs in url ever makes me worry a bit that it'll attract the kinds of people I already don't want to deal with on tumblr.

Also lol at how many people are asking about doxxing like it'd be okay for "awful" people there.

the whole blacklist xkit guy

What's that about?

I'm game to give it a try, if not to just take my username of choice.

8. Similarly, slurs will not be allowed in URL's, unless they're reclaimed slurs, in which case "the community" will be allowed to vote on whether or not they should be allowed or not. Because, literally, there is no way that that could go wrong! ("We’re thinking of putting slurs which might have been reclaimed to a vote, allowing the community to determine what will and will not be allowed in URLs.")

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Yeah, this one really worries me, because, even if "the community" agrees that it's okay to use certain slurs in their URL's, there's on way to actually police if the people using said slurs in their url's are actually people that can reclaim the slur without going into creepy territory (at least, to me).

I kind of hope this succeeds so all the obnoxious SJWs on tumblr will go there instead and stop clogging up my fandoms' tags with their bullshit.

I see absolutely no way this could ever, ever work. Sounds like they don't know what they're doing either, and that it might not even become a reality.

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dreemyweird - 2014-11-30 22:57 (UTC) - Expand

5. They're not going to work with the xKit guy because he's "problematic".

...how?

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otakugal15 - 2014-12-01 01:19 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2014-12-01 03:53 (UTC) - Expand

I'd half like this to succeed just to have all the snowflakes abandon tumblr. That would be nice.

But yeah. Sounds great. Only question is: Do they have a ballpit?

This sounds like an early April Fools joke and the only thing missing is a complimentary ball pit.

On the plus side, maybe the SJW crowd will leave Tumblr, set up their camp there and stop bothering everyone else.

MINOR QUIBBLE:

Alpha-testing actually comes before beta-testing.

Re: Inkstand

(Anonymous) - 2014-11-30 22:45 (UTC) - Expand

What's wrong with the xkit guy?

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(Anonymous) - 2014-11-30 22:50 (UTC) - Expand

This looks glorious and I will make sure to have popcorn ready when the drama starts.

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(Anonymous) - 2014-11-30 23:28 (UTC) - Expand

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iceyred - 2014-12-01 00:15 (UTC) - Expand

eh, I figured I wouldn't risk taking an interest in case it's like that tumblr chat thing a while back that was a scam.
but I might sign up if it's legit

sounds awful

This just looks like a trainwreck waiting to happen. The whole "we'll let the community decide" seems very stars-in-the-eyes to me. Like, what's stopping a horde of 4channers or something from making a ton of fake accounts and thus 'the community' decided that all slurs are reclaimed slurs? And for that matter, it seems like a bad idea in general to let a majority decide what a minority can and cannot find offensive and you'd think social justice types would be leaping all over that little note.

Someone on my dash posted about this and also mentioned that apparently Inkstand will have an 'ask to follow' feature, meaning that I guess you can't just follow someone, you have to ask first? One of the things that makes Tumblr so easy and accessible for a lot of people is that you don't have to ask first, you just follow people you like and decide for yourself how much interaction you want to have beyond that, so this seems like a bad move. They're also going to implement 'content tags' that will be added to all reblogs of that post, for triggers and such, which seems like a good idea in theory but again fails in the practicals: is this for all triggers or just common ones? Because I can easily see a simple photoset ending up with ten, fifteen extra tags because someone's triggered by motion and someone else by squares and another for violence and one for food and on and on, and at what point do you stop? Because they're trying so hard to be inclusive they can't very well say that one trigger is less valid than another.

And then there's "This all will be completely free :D" pie in the sky. If it were to get popular enough to replace Tumblr, you're not going to be able to keep that shit free. Tumblr itself has issues making enough money to justify itself (I may be misremembering, but when Yahoo bought the company I remember one of the Tumblr staff posting that without that buyout Tumblr might have had to close because it wasn't making enough money to pay for itself). They can sell premium accounts, but seeing as half of the people they're courting are either teenagers with limited income or young adults constantly begging fellow users to help them pay their rent, I find it hard to believe they can sell enough to make a decent profit. It all just smacks of people who have a lot of shiny ideas but haven't bothered to think about the practicals behind them.

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(Anonymous) - 2014-12-01 02:27 (UTC) - Expand

I saw this reblogged by someone and was mildly curious, but it doesn't really seem like it'll turn out well. Looking through their tumblr, it feels like they're going so far to be as accessible as possible that they'll end up sacrificing the ease-of-use that is really necessary for this type of platform to really take off. And when has letting things be decided by "the community at large" ever ended well?

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