[ SECRET POST #2889 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2889 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Slytherin is full of Death Eater bias because of Voldemort's influence. Voldemort was in Slytherin and by the time he graduated since he was very influential and charismatic he he had a lot of followers many of whom were also in Slytherin. Then he went on to go into power , very soon after he graduated , already making Horcruxes by sixth year so pretty soon after he got what he wanted and left his job he was already getting to work.

His followers went on to have children and of course, influenced THEIR generation, and so on and so forth.

The wizard world and its attitude pretty much sets the stage for Voldemort's attitude. The Death Eaters' attitudes are the prejudices pervading the wizard world to the extreme. Even Slytherin was known for having a fallout with Gryffindor over allowing muggle reared students. That's likely been carried down in History and contributed to SLytherin having a fair amount of bias already, depending on people's interpretation of history.

(and to be fair Slytherin not wanting to teach those from muggle background in that time period is fairly understandable)

But anyway the reason that Slytherin is full of that attitude and bias has in story historical and cultural reason, a big part of it being Voldemort's influence and the beliefs within the society. Sure there were probably plenty of wizards who didn't buy into that, but it would be sensible to believe that they kept their head down. This is a society where someone like Lucius Malfoy had a position of power in the Ministry until he was revealed and proven to be in with Voldemort.

SLytherin has/is known for that attitude because in story, and in the world it makes sense. Also Harry has a set personal bias against Slytherin from the start, and because of confirmation bias , he would notice the ones who fit his mold and not the ones who deviate. Would it have been nice to have more obviously decent Slytherins? Sure, I think so too. But a "noble Slytherin" character would have probably had a hard time with their classmates, considering how vicious the Death Eaters and wannabe Death Eaters can be. And being a Slytherin they would likely be shrewd enough to be subtle and quiet about their beliefs and not seek out attention. Because that's what Slytherin is known for. The closest to "noble SLytherins" we have are characters like Regulus Black who started out believing the attitudes he was raised with but then turned around and tried to fight Voldemort to the end.

But your answer that the only reason for the lack of it is the author is just a poor writer is simplistic and lazy, an "easy answer". It's easy to just accuse the writer of sucking rather than considering all the context of the setting and in story reasons why it might be so.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, all of this. Voldemort's message was tailored to the worst elements of Slytherin, so of course they were overrepresented among his followers. I'm sure in history there have been times the worst qualities of the other houses were ascendant, too. But this time, in this situation? This time, Slytherin's bad points were the kind of bad points Voldemort appealed to.

[(Anonymous)]

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Not being sarcastic, that was a nice breakdown.

[(Anonymous)]

I am SO FUCKING SICK of "the Slytherins only looked bad because Harry was biased". It's such a facile, childish way of dismissing narrative intent. Any ways in which Harry's views of Slytherin as a House were inaccurate were dealt with in the books, meaning by the end of the series he realised that being in Slytherin didn't = being evil.

The vast majority of what Harry learned about Slytherins and their behaviour was accurate. He is not an unreliable narrator. When people dismiss his pov because he's "biased", I automatically assume that THEY are biased toward Slytherin (maybe they have a boner for Snape or Draco) and are scrambling to come up with reasons to ignore all the shitty things their favourite characters do.

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not completely dismissing his POV. There is a difference between "a bias was present and that's why he probably didn't notice the decent Slytherins as much" and "he was totally biased and SLytherin was full of great people."

Yes he learned that. And yes he realized that the world was not split up into Slytherin and Gryffindor, but the existence of of a minor "bias filter" was there.

Nothing is being dismissed, but you can still acknowledge that a person has bias without dismissing them completely. Also notice that i mentioned that the confirmation bias was only a small factor in this. The history of Voldemort and Slytherin is much bigger factor.

and tell me, at what point do I ever try to argue in favor of anyone? I never said anything about Snape OR Draco , and do not deny that they are unpleasant people.