[ SECRET POST #2889 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2889 ⌋

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Comments

Re: "They're OBVIOUSLY gay!! *squee*"

[(Anonymous)]

Really? Because I never got the impression that they were saying it was the ONLY explanation. Just that it was certainly a possible one. And then building a case up on that.

Like your "Shore Leave" example, with the back rub scene -- sure it could be just a quick gag. But I do think it's interesting when you look at it in the context of having been written by a dude who did indeed write gay science fiction in the 50s and 60s.

I don't know -- maybe it's because I'm pretty embedded in the community. But I never got the impression that most people were saying you HAVE to see it this way or that this is the ONLY explanation. Mostly I just saw it as people getting excited over all the fodder. I know I certainly say things like "Urgh, you losers, you're so gay. And married." But I mean it affectionately and I don't actually think that the reading of them as gay is the only legitimate one. Just the one I happen to see.

Re: "They're OBVIOUSLY gay!! *squee*"

[intrigueing]

Yeah, mostly people do it your way. But I definitely have seen more than a few people claiming "they're gay!" was the only explanation -- or that other explanations were silly or stupid or blind or nonsensical, or mocking people who think otherwise, or mocking people who think there's more than one way to see things.

I don't mean things like saying "they're so gay!" - I'm sure most people can tell that's just a person's opinion. ;) I've said stuff like that myself too, I'm pretty sure. But I mean writing meta about how these are canonically queer characters who have been suppressed by their authors, and weird shit like that. O.O Or making up threads entitled "No Heterosexual Explanation Moments" and then laughing condescending about how anyone would bother to see anything otherwise.

But yeah, I've never gotten the impression the *majority* of fandom feels that way -- I hope I didn't accidentally imply that I did.

Re: "They're OBVIOUSLY gay!! *squee*"

[(Anonymous)]

OP of thread:

Yes, this is what I should have specified by my question, the mocking towards people who don't ship a pairing, or mocking people who don't think slash is the only possible way.

I have seen a lot of it in a couple of my fandoms, which is doubly sad because I kind of liked the ships, but people acting like you either have to believe in nothing but the ship or be against the ship is a big turn-off.

Re: "They're OBVIOUSLY gay!! *squee*"

[intrigueing]

I kind of liked the ships, but people acting like you either have to believe in nothing but the ship or be against the ship is a big turn-off.

Yeah, this is the case for me too, for multiple ships both het and slash (which is probably a big reason why I'm not much of a shipper.) Femslash tends to be a little better, though, I think...