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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-02 07:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #2891 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2891 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Final Fantasy XIII]


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[Cross Ange]


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[Wentworth/Prisoner: Cell Block H]


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[Grant Morrison]


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[Amy Jo Johnson/Power Rangers]


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[Pacific Rim]


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[Star Wars: The Force Awakens]


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[Parks and Recreation]










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[personal profile] stabbystabbyzebra 2014-12-03 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think badass women can be dressed provocatively and there can be fanservice about them, and yet they're still badass even then.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-03 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure using the term 'fanservice' captures the extent to which characters in Cross Ange are sexualized

(not necessarily disagreeing with your point, just... the characters' roles as sex objects is extremely central to the show)
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[personal profile] stabbystabbyzebra 2014-12-03 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
That's a difficult thing, because I wonder if a character can be sexualised and badass at the same time, and if that's bad.

Is sexualisation always wrong or is it wrong because of the context? I tend to believe it's context, but there is the point that women are more sexualised than men. Maybe it will be wrong until it's equal?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-03 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's a tough question. I tend to fall down on the side of things that there's no problem with sexualization in principle, and definitely that characters can be sexual and badass at the same time. But again, it's just taken to such an extreme in Cross Ange, and to a place that really feels like objectification in the most literal sense of the word, such that it makes me pretty uncomfortable.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-03 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, a character can be sexualized and badass at the same time. Sexualisation does not remove agency. Objectification removes agency, and while the two seem to be interchangeable to an awful lot of a certain group, they are two separate things.

Proof that sexualisation does not remove agency: A person can sexualize themselves. A person can not objectify themselves.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-03 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
What's wrong with objectification on its own, especially when these are fictional characters? I mean this show doesn't appeal to me, but I don't really see anything wrong with people who like looking sexy cartoon women who don't have agency over their sexuality or whatever.