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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-04 06:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2893 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2893 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
What about turning them bi?
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[personal profile] ibbity 2014-12-05 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Bi don't real, I guess. Or else there are a lot more people out there than I was aware who believe that "passing privilege" means that bi people don't count as queer. Which, as a bi person, pisses me off, because I get enough erasure and denial of my sexuality already from non-queer and non-allies, I do not need it from the people who are supposed to GET this stuff. But you might be amazed how many hoops people will jump through to make bisexuality not count, or the amount of people who just plain consider it the same as straight. Heck there's a person upthread right now who apparently gets mad if a gay character is made bi because they want people to "keep their hands off the one character that isn't straight."

(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, I find it kind of insulting when people play it off like "oh don't worry I didn't make this gay character straight, I made them bi." Most of the time they aren't making the character bi because they care about or want to represent my sexuality, they're making them bi so that people won't call them homophobic for wanting to see the lesbian fuck a man/the gay guy fuck a woman.
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[personal profile] ibbity 2014-12-05 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
If people are allowed to be insulted when a gay character is shipped in a straight pairing because they've experienced ill treatment for being gay, I am allowed to be insulted when people act like bi don't real because I've had lesbians tell me that bi women are all fake attention whore liars. I don't actually give a whole lot of fucks about who is paired with who in fanfiction, but if we're gonna use bad treatment/lack of representation irl as a reason we get mad about fandom stuff, then that should go for us bi folks as well as for gay people. (Admittedly I may or may not have a slight bitterness about the fact that I've been treated worse by gay people for being bi than I have by straight people...)
Edited 2014-12-05 04:10 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
There's a dearth of canon bi characters, in fandom if you don't write any characters as bi then you're contributing to bi erasure, but if you do then you're grossly using bisexuality as an excuse to make your ship work.

As a bisexual, I'll take the last option.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You could always just make straight characters bi instead of making gay characters bi... Like, as a bisexual, I would rather not throw other queer people under the bus in the process of procuring representation for myself, but to each his own.