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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-04 06:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2893 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2893 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
No, but the people on the other side of the screen/page who are identifying with them and seeing their own horrible real life experiences reflected back are. They're real, their experiences are real, and as such even a fictional depiction of it affects them in very real ways.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

So basically, your argument is that LGBT fans identify with characters who represent the LFBT experience in media in such a way and to such an extent - those characters are so meaningful to them - that creating fan works where those characters are in heterosexual relationships is harmful and just not the sort of thing one ought to do?

(this is a sincere question, I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from)

(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
Basically, yes.

I literally can't understand why anyone would see the need to take what is already a minority representation that we see very little of (certainly very little in a positive light) and turn it into the majority representation, of which there is plenty of positive depiction in every single form of media you choose to see.

To take that rare positive representation and turn them straight... yeah, I'm actually finding it hard to fathom how you might not understand why people think that's a harmful thing to do, honestly.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
Well for one thing - and I hate to harp on this - but writing fic where the gay character is straight does not, in fact, turn them straight or erase the representation. The representation is still there. It's still in the work. It hasn't changed. It's still just as much a positive depiction as it was before.

As to the question of why... well, I have no idea why. But that's kind of the point with fanfiction, isn't it? I have no idea what someone else might see in the work, what might interest them about it, what specific aspect of the character or their relationship might get someone interested. But the ability to play with all of those things is what makes fanfic interesting to me.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
So fans of that show/character come online to engage with the fandom because they think finally here's something that won't just get thrown in my face. Finally here's something I can get behind that won't trigger dumbfuck ship wars or "it's not canoooon!" drama.

What they then see is people taking that character and turning them straight, despite canon actually giving them that representation, that positive image, that idea that THEY EXIST. But hey, not in the fandom they don't.

You don't think they'd be a teeeeeny bit aggrieved by that?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-05 12:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem with this 'not in the fandom they don't!' thing is that it implicitly equates "the existence of het fanfiction with that character" with "the nonexistence/lack of any gay fanfiction with that character".

It would be a problem if an entire fandom (or even most) up and decided to ignore a character's lack of straightness, but that's blatantly not the phenomenon being dealt with here (and if something like that happened, it would be a wayyy bigger issue than 'you're writing the wrong fanfics!').