[ SECRET POST #2893 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2893 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

See, this would make sense if I had actually reposted the art. Too bad I didn't. Instead I made a post telling people how to find it.

But keep on being offended at how I'm pointing out that fan artists don't have the right to complain about people stealing their work or posting their work without attribution when they are profiting off the intellectual property of others and haven't gotten permission from the original creator.

I have zero fucking sympathy. If you want credit, do something original and, here's a thought, NOT illegal. Sound good, hon?

[(Anonymous)]

You yourself said you couldn't find -- aka were too lazy to use Google Translate -- the artists behind the works.

So how exactly do you know they're profiting off anything?

Because "hon" most fanartists don't get or even attempt to get a single dime off their work. They still spend hours on it and you're still a patronizing, entitled dickwad.

[(Anonymous)]

I DID try to use Google translate. If you haven't noticed, it's not all that great and I ended up getting a lot of twitter feeds and image boards -- many of which were dead ends. I was using reverse google image search and that was enormously unhelpful.

I don't mind if fan artists want to create art. Go for it. But I do think it's a bit rich that they get upset when other people don't contact them and respect their intellectual property when they themselves don't do that for the original creators. I'm sorry, but I don't feel beholden to that.

And it's the height of hypocrisy, in my opinion, to demand that people not repost your work or that they MUST put a link back to the original page when you show such disregard for the creative rights of others. It's not wrong or evil to create fan art, but it is hypocritical to get upset with others for not respecting your work/seeking permission when you yourself have done neither for the original creator.

[(Anonymous)]

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They're still doing all the work and they do it because they're fans of the original canon.

You just want to use their work to get all the credit because you believe you're entitled to do so.

What they are doing may not be perfectly legal (but since most Japanese manga authors even love to receive fanart of their works and some even gets showcased on their manga, I don't think that's the issue is that big), but what you're doing is plain shitty.
If you can't respect other people, I don't think you even deserve to enjoy what they do and share for free.

[(Anonymous)]

Who the fuck said I was trying to pass it off as my own? I'm NOT. But sometimes, it can be tough to find the original artist and so, yeah, I'll post it and let people know that it's not mine but if someone knows whose it is and can give me a link then I'll edit it on. I do reverse-google image search every picture I post, but a whole hell of a lot of the time, it just leads me back to Russian or Japanese image boards or 4chan. Which isn't fucking helpful at all.

If the artist wants to contact me and let me know that it's their's that's fine.

What I have a problem with, though, is when people get pissy at me just for reposting it without a source. I'm sorry, but I think you're a little bitch if you're complaining about that. I'm not taking credit for your work. Am I posting it without authorization? Yes. BUT you CREATED it without authorization. So I think it's the height of hypocrisy to throw a fit over people sharing your work or people reblogging your picture without attribution when you didn't show anywhere near the same level of courtesy to the original author.

I don't think fanartists deserve to be disrespected or plagarized. I just don't think they have the right to demand MORE respect than they show the original author.

[(Anonymous)]

You're gaining attention, notes and followers off the back of someone else's hard work and your "effort" of using Google. That's pathetic.

It's NOT hard to find the original artist. You've been given three sites that do this with a 99% success rate, and if you weren't a lazy entitled idiot who's more interested in gaining kudos for your high and mighty self, you'd have sought them out. That's all people were asking of you. In the rare instances where you can't find the source, then it's precisely because of OTHER PEOPLE LIKE YOU doing the same fucking thing.

It's not on the artists you chase you down when you're the one in the wrong. How don't you see that fanart is automatically attributing the source by its very existence? That's the whole fucking point of it.

You ARE both a little bitch yourself for the way you're acting, and you ARE disrespecting fanartists.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah AND SO IS THE FANARTIST. The fanartist is gaining attention, notes, and followers off the back of someone else's hard work too -- because do you REALLY believe that nearly as many people would be interested in the piece of art if it was an original work? NO. Because people deliberately seek out fanart because they're already invested in the characters.

So you know what, if someone takes your art and reposts it you don't have the right to get all pissy about it when you yourself are building yourself up based off of someone else's work. Do fanartists have the right to smack down plagarists and tell people to give the attribution? Yeah. Do they have the right to scream and get upset about it? No -- otherwise they shouldn't be making fanart in the first place.

And LOL -- you think it's fucking RARE not to be able to find a source? I have dozens and dozens of images sitting on my computer from 4chan archives along with Russian and Japanese imageboards that I can't find a single source to besides the random page google linked me to.

You say I'm lazy, and yet it would be easy for any fanartist to just drop me a message so that I can edit their name in and link it back to the original page. Instead of throwing a snit. Because they sure as hell don't care that they're manipulating someone else's work to promote themselves so it's a bit galling for them to get upset at someone doing it to them.

I am no more disrespecting fanartists than they are the original creators. If you find my stance so disrespectful, then maybe you should be targeting the fanartists themselves first.

[(Anonymous)]

No, see, the height of hypocrisy is "Well this is wrong and I'm outraged so I'll do the exact same thing that I'm judging others for doing, but it's okay because when I do it it's different."

[(Anonymous)]

Can you read?

I never said it was wrong for fanartists to create fanart. I said it's wrong for them to get upset that people repost their work without authorization when they themselves do not get authorization from the original creator to create that art in the first place.

I'm not saying it's okay to plagarize, I'm saying that you can't get angry at people for not consulting with you when YOU did not consult with the original creator in the first place.