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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-07 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2896 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2896 ⌋

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[personal profile] were_lemur 2014-12-08 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
Because having a place for people to go to express their frustrations with Alice/Bob is better than having that frustration in the main community, where they are going to be harshing the squee of the Alice/Bob fans.

You're talking about the difference between "critique" and "hate" as if there is a clear, unequivocal line that both the fans and the critics will agree on. While it's easy to say that it's hate when someone who accuses all Alice/Bob fangirls of being pathetic losers, for a lot of fans, any critique of their favorite ship is going to feel personal.

Which is why separate fannish spaces is a good thing.

I was being a bit flippant when I suggested "alice_bob_rules" and "alice_bob_sucks" but even if I'd called the hypothetical critique community "alice_bob_crit" or something like that, it's not going to make the Alice/Bob fans happy.

But having that community will give the people who really cannot stand the fact that Alice the alien infiltrator is using Bob for his government contacts a place where they can talk freely about it, and the people who want to squee about how Alice and Bob's relationship transcends the boundaries of planetary origin can have a community for that, too.

That doesn't guarantee peaceful co-existence in the main AliceBobAdvntrs comm, and the moderators might have to step in to lock posts that got out of hand. But at least it means that both of the opposing sides have their opposing sides to retreat to (or their rooms to be sent to, if you prefer that metaphor) rather than stepping on each other's toes in a common tag.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-08 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
And you genuinely think that people would stay in their respective sandboxes and play nice?

(Anonymous) 2014-12-08 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
IIRC from LJ days, and may extrapolate, banning people from communities is a hell of a lot easier than avoiding them on tumblr. Banning by IP is also possible. Good mods will also restrict bannings to serious trolls and asshats.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-08 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
If you have a LJ/DW style community, mods can freeze threads, screen or delete comments, delete entire posts, and in extreme cases, ban people. It's possible to lock individual posts or every post so only members can see it. You can set up a queue and pre-screen every post before they go live if you want. A well-modded community can stay on-topic and virtually wank-free for a long time. There's no way to do anything equivalent to this on Tumblr that I know of.
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[personal profile] were_lemur 2014-12-08 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
A giant EXACTLY to both of these.

While not every comm had moderators that were willing to lay down the law and keep the community wank-free, there were mechanisms in place that allowed mods to do that.

Nobody owns Tumblr tags. Nobody is making sure that they are used "correctly," and in fact, there is no universal definition of what the "correct" use of a tag is. It's kind of a Wild West situation. Or Dodge City, maybe, with two factions declaring that "this tag ain't big enough for the both of us."

(Which would make LJ/DW comms ... Metropolis, I guess?)