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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-13 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2902 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2902 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
A few points.

First, as anon above says, I don't think this problem is fundamentally insoluble. It's a difficult one but not impossible.

Second, even if that problem is impossible, even then, is it really that much worse than artists being forced to create work that's amenable to the whims of the market or starve? Just because the coercion is dissociated from the government doesn't mean it stops existing.

I mean I don't think it's a great solution personally but give it it's due.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-12-14 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
It's a pretty shitty solution - take that from someone who actually had family who were artists under communism.

There's a significant difference between "might have to do commercial stuff on the side to survive" and "your show will get shut down because we think it might have indirectly mocked politician X."

I'm not saying capitalism is perfect, either, but you really don't want a government-policed art sector.

(Anonymous) 2014-12-14 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a pro artist whose career I've followed for about 15 years and before she was able to make a living off of her art, she was working other (non-art-related) jobs and doing commissions/commercial contracts she didn't necessarilly feel passionate about. This did not stop her from creating art, including the art she wanted to create. Then there's my neighbor whose art basically has no commercial appeal (the way he put it, he's happy if he makes a couple thousand dollars a year) but his wife has a good job, so he's not exactly living in an old refridgerator box.

While I think fellowships and grants for artists are great, it's completely unrealistic to say that the only available options are 1) get paid a stipend by the government and let them censor what you do if they so chose and b) starve. Doing work you don't particularly want to do just to pay the bills while you try to get the work you do want to do to a point where you can live off of it is pretty common in a lot of fields, not just art.