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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-17 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2906 ]


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Re: unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I LOVE wank and I think the people who hate it are just bad at debating. If I don't care, I just ignore it. But I think people who do care and consistently have their arguments torn apart are the ones who constantly complain about wank.

Re: unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I love arguments (and am pretty decent at arguing on the Internet, and even if I wasn't, I've been doing it long enough to know not to take it personal if someone proves me wrong) but there are some times when wank really does just get out of hand and fucking nasty. Especially when it starts to get personal.

There's a difference between fun wank and awful wank, essentially

Re: unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I can agree that personal attacks are awful. I think they're another sign that the person is a poor debator and they have to go, "You just think that because you're X, Y,Z!" which is an ad hominem at the end of the day.

But when people start complaining about someone "starting up wank again" even though nothing personal has been said, I can't help but think that they're just bitter that they can't back up their points.

No one is FORCING you to participate after all, so I don't see why it would bother someone if other people want rehash old topics.

But, yes, personal attacks suck -- I agree with you there.

Re: unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
In my experience, people usually say that when it's topics that have led to those kinds of awful, acrimonious arguments in the past.

But, yes, you make some valid points.

Re: unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a little disappointed, I suppose, because I broke into a fandom kind of late and whenever I want to talk about controversial topics. there's always someone complaining about how I'm trying to start up wank again.

It just isn't at all conducive to new fans who don't know the history. And even for people who have been in fandom for a while, after some time, don't you think it's best to let it go?

Re: unpopular opinions

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I definitely get where you're coming from, that does super suck. If it's specifically people complaining about old wank, that is definitely pretty weak. I guess I'm just saying that wank can definitely be a bad thing, especially in the moment.
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Re: unpopular opinions

[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-12-18 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
I like some of it, but some of it gets old, and I've basically seen all the arguments from both sides 20 times before.
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Re: unpopular opinions

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-12-18 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
I love SOME wank.

There is good wank and bad wank.