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Hobbit positivity

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I loved it. I don't care. I loved the first two and I love the other two even more. I don't care that other people hate it, I just wish they'd stop stating their opinions as fact and ruining it for the rest of us.

I've seen it twice now, and I'm already itching to see it again. So freaking awesome.

Re: Hobbit positivity

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to see it tomorrow. I don't love the films but I don't hate them. I am disappointed in several of the choices PJ and company made but there's enough to love anyway.

I do feel you're coming from a legitimate place with regards to the negativity. When the first spoilers came out about the newest movie and people talked about what was wrong, so many people got so upset without even seeing the movie, which I don't agree with. I know that when I heard about Tauriel/Kili before I saw DoS, I was very apprehensive but it turned out mostly okay (maybe a little more than I wanted but certainly not as bad as I'd been led to believe).

Though, personally, I have seen most negative comments framed as opinions (though I don't hang out on Tumblr).

So, squee! What do you love most about the movies? (Feel free to tell me spoilers; I've probably heard it all before.)

Re: Hobbit positivity

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I love the characters. I feel like there is a depth to some of them that I didn't find in the book, as much as I love the book. Thorin in particular.

And I admit it, I love big action scenes.

Uh, in this one, I loved the Dol Goldur scene. And honestly, the thing that has confused me the most about the criticisms is criticizing the addition of that scene in this movie and the similar one in the last movie. Of all the additions, those should be the least criticized since we knew it happened, though off screen. And really, if Jackson had just had Gandalf say he was going off to face the Necromancer and then us never seeing what happened or told us who the Necromancer was, the audience would have revolted. These were the scenes people should have known would be added.

Also, I think the opening in Laketown was awesome.

I liked the Tauriel and Kili stuff. There wasn't a lot, which was a good thing, but what was there was bittersweet and really worked for me. I like angst.

And I liked the battle. I thought it was well done the way it was filmed with spotlights on various main characters in the midst of the overarching battle. And the final confrontation was so gut wrenching and yet satisfying.

Re: Hobbit positivity

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that the Dwarves definitely got more depth. I disagree with a few decisions they made for the Dwarves but I do like the movie!Thorin better than the one in the book. And several others are very memorable. I'm also really liking Bard's kids and I like Bard too.

I agree about the inclusion of the Dol Goldur storyline because I thought the same thing; you have to show where Gandalf is going; it only makes sense. I was actually hoping for much more. I've heard the scene is short but I'll wait until I see it first before I can say more.

I am looking forward to the battle. I'm trying to find the right mental space to enjoy the movie the most. I know it's not going to be the book or go in the direction I'd hoped. I'm actually consuming a lot of negative comments because I find that if I go in with all these terrible expectations, I end up being pleasantly surprised and that's the impression that stays with me. I think I'm going to enjoy this one the most probably.

I do think I'll end up wanting the EE though. That seems to be universal with a lot of the critics who've read the book.

Re: Hobbit positivity

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
It is a short scene, but it more than makes up for it in badassness.

The extended editions are always better. They are for the fans. It is usually mostly stuff that would be too much for the theater and for casual fans, and a lot of the fun is getting the new stuff when it comes out.

Re: Hobbit positivity

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Keep on rocking, nonny! I have opinions of the movie that are not all positive, but I'm here to say this:
Bard was frigging awesome. What a sensible man. I love him.

(also Thranduil's armor was way cool)

Re: Hobbit positivity

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Bard was awesome. I loved him. I liked him in the last movie, but he became one of my favorites here.
nightscale: Starbolt (Hobbit: Fili & Kili beards)

Re: Hobbit positivity

[personal profile] nightscale 2014-12-18 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
There were some things that I didn't like how they did in the movie but overall I really enjoyed it, and I expect the EE will help to add more to the things I wanted to be fleshed out anyway.

It was heartbreaking, I cried a little and I'm considering going to see it again.

Re: Hobbit positivity

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
It was heartbreaking. Especially the post-battle scene with the various people mourning over various dead bodies. I got teary and I never cry at movies. I just wanted to hug Bilbo.
nightscale: Starbolt (Hobbit: Fili & Kili beards)

Re: Hobbit positivity

[personal profile] nightscale 2014-12-18 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh the mourning was the worst, like I didn't need to hear Bilbo make that noise, I really didn't(and that's what broke me in the cinema, that fucking noise).

(This is actually one of the things that bugged me: Fili didn't get anyone mourning over him, and I didn't need like Thorin or Kili breaking-down there and then(I actually liked that Kili rushed off to go avenge him straight after because it was a very 'him' thing to do) but it would have been nice to see someone caring about him in the aftermath. But as I said I'm hoping that the EE will add some more to it, if nothing else we should get their funeral and quite frankly I'll be good with that).

Re: Hobbit positivity

(Anonymous) 2014-12-18 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
I liked it a hell of a lot more than DoS, that's for sure!

I feel like it was more fluid in the sense that the plot didn't come to a screeching halt whenever something needed to be done like in the previous movie.

Smaug raising dragon hell was the best, by the way.