[ SECRET POST #2906 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2906 ⌋

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Comments

Re: unpopular opinions

[diet_poison]

Are you willing to dispense of that, and threaten peoples lives through inaction?

Are you talking about the big picture or specific instances? Because in this particular instance, nobody's life was being threatened by inaction.

Re: unpopular opinions

[ill_omened]

Big picture.

Re: unpopular opinions

[diet_poison]

Okay.

So do you think that forcing an arrest in a situation that may cause death is necessary to save other lives in other situations?

Basically, where do you draw the line? I think I just don't agree with where you are drawing it.

Re: unpopular opinions

[ill_omened]

Literally ever single situation where force has to be used may lead to death.

Do you think that an officer should never arrest for a non-violent offence, and if someone is unwilling to comply with officers or the justice system we should be unable to enforce our will as a society?

Y/N?

Because that is the line where you're drawing it.

Re: unpopular opinions

[diet_poison]

Hmmm.

Well, that's a good question.

I do think part of the problem is with the law - we arrest for offenses that shouldn't even be illegal (that is not the cops' fault, they are just doing their jobs). I have a hard time justifying using potentially lethal force on someone for selling loosies. But there are other non-violent crimes for which I'd give a different answer (though always, care should be taken to minimize the chance of death or injury as much as possible).

And that's the other part of it - there isn't as much emphasis as there should be on the value of human lives and attempting to make all force non-lethal. Yes, there will be the risk of death, but that isn't an excuse to do everything you can to minimize that risk. It sounds like a very casual approach to the value of anyone's life if they happen to break a minor law.

And at any rate, I believe the officer who tackled and choked Eric Garner used lethal force by a big margin. We seem to have watched two different videos, so I guess we're at an impasse with that one.