[ SECRET POST #2907 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2907 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

But don't you think that's kind of an insulting explanation? With his dad, Kirk grew up to be a good kid who, despite witnessing a genocide, went through the Academy and rose through the ranks.

While losing his dad means that he turns into an impulsive, emotional screw-up until Pike sets him on the right course.

Where's his mother in all this?

I can buy that Kirk would turn out different, but I find it kind of sexist that they don't really delve into what happened to him besides losing his father. As though boys are destined to turn into fucked up men with a man to guide them.

[(Anonymous)]

But I feel like Kirk actually waffled back and forth between the mediator and the emotional one who argued with Spock depending on the episode. And the reboot picked one of those. I liked the mediator role better, but I do think the other one existed in the original series as well.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem is, there is no mediator. McCoy's been downgraded to mostly saying funny quips, Uhura hasn't been given the role of counterpoint. So it just ends up being Kirk vs Spock all day long. And frankly, I just think that's a pretty poor way to handle the crew.

I agree that there were episodes where Kirk was the emotional one arguing against Spock and that the new films are drawing on that. Those are my favorite parts of the new films and what made me finally warm up to the new Kirk and Spock. But it doesn't leave much room for anyone else. And that great dynamic is lost when it would be so easy to replicate.

[silverr]

oh, so so agreed.

(Biter dregs indeed.)

[(Anonymous)]

I came away from the first movie with the impression he had an abusive stepfather.

Though that's also kinda insulting to his mother.

[(Anonymous)]

How is that in itself insulting to his mother? People end up in abusive relationships for all kinds of reasons...

Though I do think it's implied that Winona was probably neglectful on some level, but I also think it's not a surprise that Kirk would be different, growing up with different (possibly abusive) parents, after a relatively traumatic birth. That... just seems logical. It would be weirder to me if he were exactly the same person as in TOS.