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Comments

Re: Crisis of faith-iness

[feotakahari]

I'm probably not the right person to discuss this, but I feel like it goes the opposite direction. If you believe in something, that's valuable, and that's meaningful. If you join a group that believes in something . . . well, there's certainly power in numbers, but there's also a risk that what they believe in might distract you from what you believe in. A sufficiently large organization of people, all trying to prove their devotion to their cause, can turn astray or even become toxic as they forget why they joined in the first place.

I don't want to devalue the power of community and being around folks you can comfortably share your feelings with. But I think the sort of individual faith you describe is a necessary starting point. If you're not ready for a community yet, that's your prerogative. I'm sure you'll find one in time.

Re: Crisis of faith-iness

[(Anonymous)]

I guess for me, it kind of goes back to the party line that I always see a lot of Christians trot out of "Well, let's say you're right and I'm wrong; I've lost nothing, but if I'm right and you're wrong...what does that mean for you?"

And a part of me still hates that line of thinking, because that's not faith, that's fear, but now that I've opened myself up to any sort of faith...yeah, what if they're right, and I really should be like those people I referenced in the first comment?

Re: Crisis of faith-iness

[(Anonymous)]

DA. You have faith; you don't really need organized religion or platitude based religion. Its okay to have spiritual beliefs without being Christian or whatever.

You might want to check out deism?

Re: Crisis of faith-iness

[feotakahari]

Pascal's Wager, you mean? As I understand it, the standard philosophical response is that you could believe people who accept the wager go to Heaven, and people who don't go to Hell. Or you could believe that people who don't go to Heaven, and people who do go to Hell. Or you could believe that everyone goes to Hell. Or you could believe that everyone gets reincarnated as stick insects. It's all conjecture.

I don't know if I'm being any help at all here, but looking at it from my own perspective, I don't really see what it "would mean for me." I mean, I try to live as a good person, and I usually do the right thing according to my own moral values. If I thought that meant I would go to Heaven, that wouldn't change anything--I'd still be trying to do the right thing. The same would apply if I thought my actions would lead me to Hell. I have my principles, and no one's going to bully or threaten me out of them, no matter what power they claim to have.

I dunno. Maybe I'm looking at this all wrong, but I don't really know how to look at it right. Is there even a right way to look at it?

Re: Crisis of faith-iness

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Well, to start with, there's neither Heaven NOR Hell in the Bible.

Re: Crisis of faith-iness

[diet_poison]

Having faith doesn't mean you need to be an obnoxious proselytizer. :)

Re: Crisis of faith-iness

[(Anonymous)]

+1

Re: Crisis of faith-iness

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Pascal's Wager papers over certain paradoxes in Christian thought. And even if you dive into Christianity, there's a long tradition of writing about doubt and basically not feeling it.