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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-12-31 06:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2920 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2920 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-01 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like the Nazis' hatred of Jews was their weirdest hatred. [facetiousness] Socialists are political opponents, Slavs are furriners, gays are icky, disabled people are a burden on the state, people who fight you have to be gotten out of the way [/facetiousness] -- all that is pretty much same old, same old. But Jews could be tenth-generation German-born, totally assimilated, veterans of WWI with the Iron Cross, and the Nazis still wanted to kill them. What the hell.

I think Nazi anti-Semitism was sort of the offspring of their general eugenics and extermination policy and long-term European anti-Semitism, which was equally weird.

However! The Nazis weren't good Christians. They were anti-Christian, actually, and would have been more openly anti-Christian if they weren't worried about the backlash.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-01 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
This is because the Nazi brand of antisemitism (and of race more broadly, but it's most central in antisemitism) is not about tribalism in the way you're talking about with the other groups, and it's in no way about a rational calculation of opposition and support. It is about an idea of race and blood as absolute factors which determine being, which determine society, which determine history. Race for the Nazi has an absolute claim - it is the thing which structures the world, in the Se way that class and economic factors determine history and society for significant parts of Marxism.

So any of the considerations you're outlining here are beside the point. It's not a matter of what someone proclaims to believe - it's a matter of the destiny of nations, nations understood as these supra-rational things, and of blood. And thus by the way is precisely why 19th century antisemitism is different from earlier antisemitism.

Imo anyway.

However! The Nazis weren't good Christians. They were anti-Christian, actually, and would have been more openly anti-Christian if they weren't worried about the backlash.

This is correct imo, but given that someone itt apparently believes that the Nazis were the logical heirs of Catholicism or something, I'm not sure how far you'll get with it.