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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-02 06:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2921 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2921 ⌋

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Re: Do you ship pairings who are physically violent towards each other?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-03 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Or I guess maybe it's more accurate to say one person is violent towards the other.

Anyway, I just recently watched a movie I hadn't seen before, and came away shipping two of the characters. This is the second time where I've shipped an abusive pairing and now I'm kind of worried about myself.

In this example, A slept with B's girlfriend, and when he found out, B went and beat the crap out of the girlfriend first, and then A. And for some reason by the end I was shipping A and B. I know it's fucked up, but I couldn't help but ship it. B and the girlfriend apparently got back together, which is also fucked up.

The other example, A and B are fuck buddies, but B is closeted and in extreme denial about being gay and beats the crap out of A. Later on they start sleeping together again, B comes out, and they end up having an actual relationship.

In theory, it's just fiction and shouldn't mean anything, but I'm feeling like this makes me an awful person.

Do other people ship similar pairings? Do you feel horrible about it?

Re: Do you ship pairings who are physically violent towards each other?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-03 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I don't ship a pairing like that currently, but the second example especially reminds me of certain Yaoi tropes I used to see, so it's not that uncommon.

I think acknowledging that it's fucked up goes a long way, tbh. As long as you don't romanticize relationships like that IRL, I think it's just one of those guilty pleasure things.

Re: Do you ship pairings who are physically violent towards each other?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-03 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
What films are you referring to?
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Re: Do you ship pairings who are physically violent towards each other?

[personal profile] making_excuses 2015-01-03 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Your second example reminds me of Ian and Mickey from Shameless US, and yes I ship it. But usually I don't ship pairings where violence of that kind is involved. But in that particular instance it works in universe and the violence isn't there to show power or dominance, more a coping mechanism. at least in my opinion, YMVA

But nah you shouldn't worry about it, if it isn't actually affecting or interfering with the way you feel a real life relationship, romance or courting should be.
Edited 2015-01-03 01:18 (UTC)

Re: Do you ship pairings who are physically violent towards each other?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-03 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was about to ask if their second example was Shameless. (I ship it too, and it makes me sad when people say that they're abusive or uncaring towards each other.)
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Re: Do you ship pairings who are physically violent towards each other?

[personal profile] making_excuses 2015-01-03 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I don't necessarily think they are a healthy relationship at least not all the time, but there is no abuse involved. Heck the first time they had sex it started out as a fight, I am still wondering how the fuck they got from fighting to fucking without knowing the other one was into dudes too... My headcanon is that it wasn't the first time. anyway where was I?

Yeah the people who say Mickey is abusive because he beat up Ian, don't seem to watch the same show as I do, Ian didn't really try to defend himself and those two fight a lot. Not saying Mickey is in the right or that if you can't defend yourself you deserve to get beaten... ahh words, anyway do you get what I am trying to say?

I should just go to sleep...
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Re: Do you ship pairings who are physically violent towards each other?

[personal profile] ghostofcairo 2015-01-03 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
That was my first thought, too! And if it is them, the only time I can think of that I would count as 'Mickey beating Ian up' was pretty soon after he was forced at gunpoint to have sex with someone he didn't want to have sex with. He was not exactly in a sane place, mentally. Plus I think they're pretty evenly matched physically, and if Ian had wanted to hurt him back, he definitely could have. Like you said below, not that that excuses what Mickey did, but...it's a complicated situation.
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Re: Do you ship pairings who are physically violent towards each other?

[personal profile] ghostofcairo 2015-01-03 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm also wondering if the second example is Mickey and Ian from Shameless. At least it sounds like them, and if so, I ship it. The situation I would assume you're talking about was after a really traumatic event and it was...complicated. I don't think in general their relationship is abusive, though.

The other example, I have no idea what it is but depending on the specific dynamics and the chemistry between the actors, I might've shipped it, too.

And even though I don't watch it anymore, I used to ship Sam/Dean from Supernatural, which is fucked up on multiple levels, including the fact that they got into physical fights more times than I could remember.

I think as long as you don't idealize these types of relationships as something you want in your own life, it's not really that big of a deal.