case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-04 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2923 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2923 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.


__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.


__________________________________________________



08.


__________________________________________________



09.











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 065 secrets from Secret Submission Post #418.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Part of the issue, in the US at least, is that the common definition of "fat" and "thin" doesn't really line up that well with what's medically sound. Even the oft trotted out "fat people die sooner!" studies showed that the correlation had more to do with hip-to-waist ratio than weight or dress size, and one person's healthy weight is going to be another person's underweight or overweight.

DA

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Do you have any studies on that?

Just asking because it's something I would very much like to show my family, because they are crazy about weight.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Some studies about waist-hip ratio vs. BMI as predictors of health:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3115050/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16895897

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
actually the US probably has the most generous definition of fat and thin in terms of health. that's what the bmi is is for, and the bmi, when you account for bone structure, is actually pretty close to being accurate, and it is VERY generous. i'm at the very top of my bmi normal limit, and i personally would consider myself rather overweight. if i cut sugar out of my diet, which i have an unfortunate addiction to, and exercised more than like once a week on good weeks, i would defnitely shed at least 15 lbs over a year or so, easily.

if you're fat, you're not eating healthy, period. if you're eating whole foods, cooking most of your food (thereby maximizing the amount of micro-nutrients you receive), cutting out sugar (which is basically poison), eating balanced meals (good amounts of carbs, healthy fats, and protein), and you exercise normally, it is literally impossible to get fat unless it's medical problem (like thyroid disorder). and i mean fat as in exceeding your bmi limit.

if you're thin, it doesn't necessarily mean you are healthy, or eating healthy, or even taking care of your body in any way. being fat is just a very visible way of being unhealthy. even smokers can do so in private if they choose to. i don't know, honestly, i'm kind of split on this issue because on one hand i think your health is your business, but on the other hand, i think the more people who are unhealthy, the more it influences other people to be less concerned about their own health. i don't really mind condemning unhealthy behavior...but people who are fat shouldn't get more shit for it than smokers or drinkers. or people who sleep like 3 hours a night. or skinny people who eat doritos as a food staple (my brother).

Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
BMI is going to overestimate your obesity levels if any of the following are true:

You have a lot of muscle mass for your size.
You have a large frame (go by wrist circumference).
All other factors being equal, you have larger breasts/butt than the average woman your size.

BMI is going to underestimate your obesity level if any of the following are true:
You're thin with low muscle tone.
You have a small frame.
You're a woman whose figure is generally described as "boyish."

Generally speaking, if neutral third parties are often surprised that you weigh as much or as little as you do and/or you have a hard time finding clothes that don't bag in some places and pinch in others, BMI's probably not a great indicator of what should be a healthy weight for you.