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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-04 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2923 ]


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Re: been musing about this but not sure what to think

(Anonymous) 2015-01-05 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Had a conversation about this topic with a friend a while back, and what we eventually came up with was this:

There's a difference between health and appearance.

Both sides of the argument (for and against fat acceptance) tend to conflate these two, which maybe is where a lot of the conflict happens.

Fat acceptance is about pushing back against a world which tells us, over and over, that if we're not a certain size, we're ugly, we're worthless. It's about rejecting that norm of beauty as incredibly limiting.

That's different from critiquing things on the basis of health. I think you can critique those who are obese because of overeating and lack of exercise, just the same as you can critique smokers or alcoholics for the damage they do themselves. But here's the key thing, when it comes to that last bit: don't be an asshole about how you talk about health.

Most people's "concern" comes in the form of commentary about how you must be miserable at that weight, don't you want to get down to something healthier, you'll feel better and look better. You can claim that you're coming from a position of genuine concern for a person's health, but it often ends up just sounding like "You should lose weight so you fit this standard of what's pretty."

Which, to be honest, fat people get from the world all the time anyway. It's probably why there's such strong backlash against this kind of commentary.