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⌈ Secret Post #2926 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

i really don't have any isses with sherlock except for the episodes where sherlock is massively ooc (sib, hlv). it's not a terribly clever show but why does it have to be? i'm fine with it being nothing more than fun.

[(Anonymous)]

I think there are a significant number of people, myself included, who'd like it to be both fun AND clever. It'd be appropriate, because the ACD stories did that, and the whole point of Sherlock Holmes' character is not to be an entertaining guy. He's clever and he solves mysteries. It's... sort of his thing.

[(Anonymous)]

well, that's how acd was, but sherlock isn't acd. it's its own thing, and sherlock is a huge departure from acd's sherlock holmes. and i don't get why that's not okay? i mean, yeah, it could be brilliant and i'd be ecstatic, and of course i recognize that it could be better. but it's not, and i don't get why people dwell on that. most of everthing isn't that great.

[(Anonymous)]

Er... I'm not sure I understand your reasoning. Most of everything isn't great, so people shouldn't be disappointed about anything they find underwhelming?

I know Sherlock isn't ACD and wasn't meant to be. I'm not sure why it's wrong to wish for a Sherlock that was both fun AND clever, though? I'm not saying clever in exactly the way that ACD Holmes was, I'm talking about a modern AU show that intelligently written as well as entertaining. I understand that many old-school fans will be down on Sherlock no matter what, but you know... at the same time, a lot of Sherlock fans are simply butthurt that people are pointing out the show they love has problems with weak plots and writing.

I don't mind that you're in it solely for the fun. Why do you mind that I'd like it to be more clever?

[(Anonymous)]

i don't mind. you can think or want what you want. i just don't understand it. people bitch all the time about it not being clever, and i don't get why they don't just get over it. the show is what it is, watch it if you like it, don't if you don't.

[(Anonymous)]

You clearly do mind. And when canon Holmes fans are constantly being pressed by BBC fans with "love this, love this, love this, why do you not love this?" it's pretty darn wearing for us, I can tell you.

[(Anonymous)]

i don't mind. i promise. :)

[(Anonymous)]

And then when you explain why you don't love it, they get butthurt. After they asked you why you don't love it...

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Or they get slightly passive-aggressive about why you can't just "get over it" because your criticism of their beloved show is bothering them.

[stabbystabbyzebra]

Because...you asked. You asked "why do people want it to be clever?" And someone said, "these are my reasons," and now you're all, "but why do you have to go on about it."

You asked to explain and you don't like the explanation and now you are complaining about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay. I don't think it's a difficult concept to grasp, though. Surely there are things you dislike that other people like? Or more relevant to the topic, you seem to dislike the fact that people want something more out of Sherlock than what you're content with. But you haven't gotten over it, 'cause here you are, discussing it. You know your own motivations for doing so, of course, so why is it hard to understand that other people feel the same way about things you like?

[(Anonymous)]

Some people do not like things that you do like, and things matter to them that do not matter to you. What's not to "get" about it? It's quite simple.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

There's a difference between not liking something and spending an inordinate amount of time talking about why you don't like it, usually in the spaces of those who do. The necessity of some people to do that (rather than just, perhaps, not watch things they don't like and move on to something that they do) is pretty difficult to understand.

Unless they're masochists, or just want to bring down the people who do enjoy it. Then it's quite simple.

[(Anonymous)]

But the original anon who started this comment thread ASKED PEOPLE WHY IT HAD TO BE CLEVER. They asked and then got upset when someone responded to their question and they didn't like their answer.

[(Anonymous)]

You have a pretty bizarre definition of upset. I wasn't, nor am I, upset. Or bothered. And the responses on this particular thread are not at all what I was referring to when I say people harp on about how Sherlock isn't clever or even good at all. It happens everywhere, all the time, for no apparent reason that I can discern. Granted, this isn't a phenomenon exclusive to Sherlock, I just happen to enjoy Sherlock and therefore I notice it. I personally don't waste my time watching things that disappoint me, nor do I waste my time going on about how disappointed I am. I would rather watch things I genuinely like and discuss those things. And I will say again, I don't CARE that people do it, I just don't GET it. People can do it if they want, I have no interest in stopping them. But I don't do it, I would never do it, and I don't understand the behavior.

[(Anonymous)]

You wouldn't dwell on why Sherlock isn't a different show than it is, but you'll happily dwell on people who bring up the idea (in response to a question you asked) that Sherlock could be, in their opinion, a better show. Like several comments above, what's not to get? People don't like the thing you like, and sometimes they talk about it... dead simple.

Let's reiterate: you asked a question, someone responded, and the very next comment from you is about people who dwell on the subject you asked about. How is that logical? At that point in the thread, the "dwelling" consisted of one reply to your question.

To be honest, when people claim over and over again they're totally fine with X but they don't get it when X is a fairly basic fact of life (people disliking things you like), I get suspicious. Only a person who's lacking in basic intelligence would fail to grasp this idea... or a person who's being purposely oblivious so they can complain about the people who dislike the thing they like.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

People disliking something you like, yes a basic fact of life.

People who go out of their way to keep reminding you of just how much they dislike the thing you like, long after their dislike is relevant if it was at all? They're the oblivious ones who get off on endless complaining.

Personally I'm far more suspicious of the latter.