[ SECRET POST #2926 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2926 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 036 secrets from Secret Submission Post #418.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: fandom opinions

[lunabee34]

I have to disagree with you re: Thorin. I realize I am in a minority in this opinion and YMMV and etc. :)

In the book (which I have read multiple times since childhood), all the dwarves except Balin come across as pretty much dickwads. Especially Thorin. They're cowardly, ignoble, greedy. I don't care when Thorin dies in the book.

The book made me empathize with him and care about him. It made him and the other dwarves heroic and noble. It made his quest into one to reclaim a homeland and reunite a people. I care when movie Thorin dies, and I care because the dragon sickness took a hero and twisted his values. I don't care when always greedy Thorin continues to be greedy.

Obviously not calling your take or reading wrong! Just my personal pref.

NAYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I think the Rankin-Bass cartoon version of Thorin is still my favorite, tbh. Movie Thorin is almost TOO sympathetic and heroic.

Re: NAYRT

[lunabee34]

I know I saw a Hobbit cartoon when I was a kid but only once, and it had to be at least 25 years ago. I should watch it again.

Re: fandom opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I don't why a character being nothing more than a greedy jerk is somehow better. I like that he was made sympathetic and heroic.

Re: fandom opinions

[lunabee34]

*nods nods*

(I also realize I typed book when I meant movie in that second paragraph. Oh the perils of posting while drinking wine. LOL)

Re: fandom opinions

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT -- I like both versions for different reasons.

I guess I never really saw the dwarves as dickwads, so much as having different priorities that made sense to them culturally, but not to Bilbo. Honestly, Gandalf annoyed me more. It sometimes seemed like he was just getting his kicks by fucking with Bilbo. I haven't read the Hobbit in ages though, so who knows what I'd think about it all now.

Re: fandom opinions

[lunabee34]

Oh, man. Gandalf. *shakes head*

In the trilogy, he's mysterious but makes sense. In The Hobbit, he's an utter cypher and his decision to involve Bilbo is inexplicable. It's a caprice, a whim.

Re: fandom opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Middle Earth historians later posited that the War of the Ring truly started because Gandalf needed a hobby...

Re: fandom opinions

[lunabee34]

Ahahahahahahahhaha.

I can see that.