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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-10 04:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #2929 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It wasn't the worst thing ever but it did annoy me. I saw their behind-the-scenes thing that explained the decision and that mollified it a bit for me and made me look at it in a different way. BUT, if they were really talented, they could've figured out a way to make 4 legs and 2 wings work and still be menacing. It just sounds like another cop-out to explain away the decisions they make (like their "explanation" that Faramir couldn't be unaffected by the ring or the ring's menace would've been reduced -- a good writer could MAKE that work anyway).

I still wish he'd been a real dragon but I'm more annoyed that the Dwarf-chase at the end ruined all menace and danger from him. He was no longer a terrifying threat but more of a cartoon at that point. Very disappointing.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I know.

I was pleasantly surprised by Cumberbatch's voicing of him and the scene in the mountain, but the rest of the movie was too comical.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-01-10 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't have minded the dwarf-chase if it hadn't went on so long. (This is pretty much a summary of how I feel about these films. Even the stuff that made me go, "Eh, that didn't need to be there", mostly I would've liked if it hadn't taken up so much time. That said, I still liked the films.)

I did wonder several times, "Wait, does he not have four legs?!" but I liked Cumberbatch's voice work and think Smaug still looked cool. (I would've preferred four legs too, but alas, it wasn't meant to be.)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
The dwarf-chase was the movie's pod racing.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
The problem is Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens aren't great writers. I can't tell you how much I facepalmed over how badly they stuffed up basic storytelling. And, with many things in the films, I can understand why they made the changes they did, but they often go for the first cliche-ridden idea they have and ughhh.

The dwarf chase was awful and I still can't get over how they look at a sequence and go "that would be boring, how about a chase sequence?" Tell me how a sequence based on the book, where Smaug blocks the secret entrance and traps the dwarves in the mountain as he flies off to destroy Laketown isn't a great ending? It's not action-y action, but it's exciting, it's different and ends on the terrifying note of the dwarves being trapped in the mountain, waiting for the dragon to come back and kill them.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I was really excited to see Smaug attacking them on the little ledge and them being trapped in the tunnel and it being pitch dark. There was so much they could've done with that. I think it would've been very exciting.

I do get that it's nice to have Thorin confront Smaug. After what Smaug did, that is something different from the book that would be satisfying. BUT, what was on screen was terrible. It was such a mess and it didn't do anything for Thorin's character because I was face-palming the whole time at how stupid it was.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. It would have been this incredibly foreboding cliffhanger where everyone is in danger.

Yep, and I can imagine that the emotional fall-out of having Thorin confront Smaug, the one creature who has caused so much suffering from him and his people, would be incredible. But there is no emotion in scene - it's just action and OTT stunts.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem is Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens aren't great writers.
THIS! A hundred billion times. Happy as I was for ROTK to sweep the Oscars, the fact that they got the screenwriting Oscar is a joke.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
My face palming moment was when i realized they were trying to drown a dragon in liquid gold.
WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA, SERIOUSLY????

I thought the thing down with the water and the chase was nice and all. but the gold thing? wtaf? PJ no, just, nooooooo!