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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-10 04:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #2929 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You could say it raises issues or concerns. You could say you find the concept disturbing.

I would argue that those are just the same thing, except not using the specific word. If problematic is bad, those are just as bad (and, for saying it raises issues, more awkward to use stylistically). I mean, I'm not objecting to them, it's just that if that's your solution then it seems to me that what you're saying is that problematic isn't fundamentally bad, it's just that it gets used too much in ways that annoy you.

You could be brave and flat out give the reason you don't like something, instead of using a waffle word like problematic.

My sense is that the reason that people say "problematic" instead of "sexist" (or whatever) is because sexist (or whatever) carries a way, way bigger charge. Like, in a situation where I think the treatment of women in a given work is an issue, I don't necessarily want to say that it's sexist, because that raises a whole bundle of issues about intentionality, moral judgment, whether or not it was a conscious thing, whether or not I am making an accusation at the people who made it, etc. Saying that something is problematic sidesteps that whole issue by focusing the conversation on the work in a way that using the specific word 'sexist' doesn't.

Again, if you can think of a word that gets that across that is better than problematic, I am completely happy to use it!

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Sexist and racist do carry bigger charges, which is why when something is sexist or racist (or other ists), it's important to call it what it is, rather than hiding behind the bullshit vagueness of "problematic."

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
I use problematic as a blanket term for media with all MANNER of issues. I can say it's sexist and homophobic and apologetic, but when the media has more issues than that, or when I'm talking about an entire genre that is rife with different -isms, I'm gonna call it problematic to keep the conversation from getting too wordy.

You sound like someone who goes out of their way to avoid using "said" when writing dialogue.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering the issue here is the degree in which it is used is to the extent where the OP can't take it seriously, it is the solution. It's not that awkward.