[ SECRET POST #2929 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2929 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

"I think this has racist implication/connotations" and "I'm getting an abusive vibe from this relationship" is subjective.
"This is problematic" is objective.

People are far too often unwilling to concede that their opinions are Not solid facts that everyone needs to agree with. Subjective opinions can not be used to bully people into telling you that you're right and making you feel powerful and superior.

[(Anonymous)]

"This is problematic" is objective.

...It's really not, though?

[(Anonymous)]

But it is. Somthing being problematic is subjective, but somone saying outright that somthing is problematic is an objective statment.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, then "This is racist" or "This is sexist" should work just as well.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the ayrt means that people use "This is problematic" as an objective statement which means they can ignore anybody who disagrees with them since they're wrong and probably whatever-ist. Plus is a nice blanket statement so they can make sure they get all the brownie points.

"I think x is whatever-ist" admits that it is merely an opinion, and not undisputed fact.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, in a perfect world it would be objective, but right now, it's kind of not.

[(Anonymous)]

No, I mean it is an objective statement, not that the thing that is being described is objectively one thing or another, but that the way they choose to describe it is in an objective manner. It's not saying "I think XXX" it's saying "This is XXX"

[anonymous4]

It's actually subjective masquerading as objective.

Which is why it pushes so many buttons.

[were_lemur]

Wow. I never thought of it that way, but you're right.

[elialshadowpine]

Hmm. I tend to agree, if the main issue in the book/movie/TV series/whatever is XYZ. If there's multiple issues, I'll personally tend towards problematic, and elaborate as needed. It depends on context, too. But, I can understand where "problematic" can get to be an issue, when everyone says something is "problematic" but it's harder to find info on what actually is the issue (and then people act like you're stupid, or outright call you such, if it's something you didn't pick up on, when sometimes things can be pretty subtle and wouldn't be things you'd necessarily think of; I've lost track of the number of times someone put a bunch of relatively-subtle stuff together that I missed when I was reading, for whatever reason, and it seemed pretty obvious afterwards).