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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-10 04:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #2929 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2929 ⌋

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Re: Wrong

(Anonymous) 2015-01-10 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Justin Bieber. Just...Justin Bieber. When he first became well known and people were constantly hating on him and saying things about him that were frankly disturbing considering his age at the time, I felt sorry for him and even defended him although I didn't care for his music. He seemed like a pretty nice kid for a while who seemed to treat his fans well at least and I thought that he might grow up to be a decent dude. Words cannot describe how wrong I was. So, so wrong.

Re: Wrong

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but despite how he turned out, he was still just a kid when some horrible things were being said about him and it's not kosher to hate on a kid like that. So I don't think you were wrong to defend that aspect of it.

Re: Wrong

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

You're right. I don't really regret the defending since I think that people went way over the line when making fun of him years ago. I was just genuinely surprised that he turned out to be such an asshole, even though I probably shouldn't be (a lot child pop stars or actors seem not to turn out very well or go through some really rough patches after all)

Re: Wrong

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard his father is part of his 'entourage', that his dad was there when he was underage and trying to get into clubs. If that's true, how he turned out was sort of in the cards. He probably has the same kind of parenting Lindsay Lohan had.

Re: Wrong

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

It wouldn't surprise me if his dad had something to do with it because he's a HUGE asshole. He's one of those dead beats who completely checked out of their kid's life until they got successful and then suddenly he realized how important fatherhood was. There were a lot of rumors that his mom had to stop Bieber from giving his dad too much money and I don't really doubt it.
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Re: Wrong

[personal profile] lunabee34 2015-01-11 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, Nonnie, I thought he was adorable when he first appeared on the scene. Just a cutie pie.

I feel really sorry for him now, though, because I think it is extremely difficult to handle celebrity as an adult much less as a child. I think some of the important things that most children learn when they're growing up is that their actions have consequences, eating all the cookies in the jar is bad for you, and that you can't always get what you want. When your fame insulates you from consequences and you can afford not just the jar of cookies but the whole damn factory, it skews your whole outlook.

Obviously, I am not condoning his behavior, but I think you've got to have super dedicated parents to prevent a child star from going down a dark path, and looking at the other commments in this thread, he doesn't appear to have had that. :(

Re: Wrong

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

That's a good point. I do feel sorry for him because it seems like he wasn't given the right tools to handle his sudden and immense popularity/hatedom (though, like you said, it doesn't really excuse his current behavior). I really hope he eventually stops acting like such a douchecanoe. He doesn't exactly have a lot of goodwill left to burn

And yeah, it seems like he didn't really have parents who were quite equipped to help him manage everything. His mother seems like a decent woman (especially considering her frankly horrific childhood) but I don't think she was prepared for how famous/infamous her son would become. His dad is just a straight up asshole though. Among other things, he was in the news in early December for allegedly throwing his dog off of a balcony (the dog is alive thank goodness, but she did have injuries) and before that he was arrested and charged with breaking a teenage girl's jaw. He basically walked into his son's life for the first time since he was born once he started making money and he's been mooching off of him and encouraging terrible behavior ever since. The worst part is that Bieber, by all accounts, either isn't aware or refuses to acknowledge how toxic his father is and even refers to him as his "superhero." It's actually really, really sad.
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Re: Wrong

[personal profile] lunabee34 2015-01-11 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow. I didn't know anything at all about his background. That's so awful.

:(