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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-11 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2930 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2930 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I know where you're coming from, but she's clearly stuck in an abuse cycle and has been since she was a child. Her brother is her family, her protector, her torturer, and holds all of her cards in his hands; if she ran, he would catch her, and she'd be even worse off.

Even if the above scenario isn't true (which for her, it might be), it's what people who are stuck in abuse cycles typically feel. To outsiders, it seems so simple-- just GO. Just RUN. But inside it, it's not so easy.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never seen the show/movie/whatever it is, but I have to agree with you. I have a friend whose family seems very emotionally manipulative if not downright abusive, and she's talked about getting out before, but it's not so easy. And any relatives she could turn to are either just as toxic or so sick of her immediate family's drama, they don't want to hear it.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
When she did try to run, he did catch her, and she was indeed even worse off. Which is something of an understatement.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Image: photo (screen cap?) of a worried-looking white woman with dark hair in a tight bun, light eyes, full make-up including red lipstick, wearing a red silk turtleneck or scarf and a darker jacket.

Text: I find this character really confusing. Why does she rely on Mason, exactly? Why can’t she just leave him and go live her life without her family’s money? Am I missing something? Is there something in the books that is implied about her? She just seems really pathetic to me. Add to it the fact that she manipulates Will into giving her a child, and she’s pretty much an awful person. WHY do people like her? So confused.
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[personal profile] purpleseas 2015-01-11 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Mason is kind of deranged and really abusive and obsessive with her, if you didn't notice, so running away without the money wouldn't have helped a whole lot. He would have unlimited resources to find her and bring her back and punish her any way he wanted, and she'd have nothing. And god knows what real-world, marketable skills she even has when she's lived in a palace with servants all her life. She did try to leave toward the end, come to think of it, and he had her hunted down and forcibly sterilized. In the books, Mason is a huge rapist and child molester and their whole storyline is pretty OTT, but the show isn't going to depict rape, so they concentrated on his sadism apart from that. What she did with Will was pretty shitty, especially since he was already a vulnerable person in a horrible situation who was kind of blitzed when she showed up, but you know, liking a character doesn't mean you approve of everything they do. The whole Flawless Queen etc. crowd probably does, but who cares about them. She's not a big favorite of mine, but I understand why she does what she does and felt for her in her fear and desperation. And laughed a lot at the end-for-now because he earned that shit.
Edited 2015-01-11 22:18 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you perhaps miss the fact that he's been abusing her (physically, sexually, and emotionally) for basically her whole life? Add the fact that he's stupidly wealthy and powerful and you've got a situation that's extremely difficult to leave.

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[personal profile] arcadiaego 2015-01-11 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I assumed it was because Mason would just get her and bring her back. He managed to get rid of her baby, and he has so much money finding her wouldn't be a problem.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-11 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
She is an awful person, almost everyone in the show is to some degree (Maybe not Alana?) but she couldn't just leave because there is no way Mason would let her just leave. That much seems pretty obvious imo.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't part of it that she doesn't want to just leave Mason's control, she wants to have power over him in retribution for what he did to her? I could be remembering it wrong/making that part up though my memory of when I watched it is very hazy.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
hey now, bev was alright i think! :(

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Ah you're right! Beverly was probably the best person on that show tbh.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even watch this show and it's really, really obvious from this secret that this is a woman in an abusive relationship. If you wanna understand, I think you might wanna research what it's like to be abused and why it's hard to leave.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Spoilers for the books: In the book series she hung around Mason and took care of him because she wanted his sperm so Margot could impregnate her wife. If she didn't take care of him, he wouldn't give it to her, and she couldn't have a kid like she wanted.

In the end, Hannibal basically told Margot she could kill Mason and just blame it on him when the authorities asked. Margot raped him, took his sperm and then killed him and blamed it on Hannibal. Which is exactly what he deserved, tbh. I prefer book!Margot. IMO the show really dulled her down and made her character much weaker. Example: Margot was also a bodybuilder and incredibly strong in the books. IN the show, she's portrayed by a very thin and cute girl who rides horses. :/

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently they made her feminine to avoid LGBT stereotypes.
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[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-01-12 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Stereotypes or not, I prefer book!Margot. Goddamn am I glad I quit this tv series...
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-12 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know much about the canon, but getting away from my family involved me being homeless for a year. And I HAD real life skills, a job (at the start, anyway...), lived thousands of miles away already, and had a robust support network. This IN SPITE of my family not trying very hard to get me back.

Getting away from shitty people is actually a pretty complicated, risky business.