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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-12 05:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2931 ]


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pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Image

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-12 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
posting someone other than Empowered in the OP is an objectively incorrect decision

HTH
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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-01-13 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
This is an ironic statement, but despite being sexual, empowered, and Empowered, I wouldn't call Emp sexually empowered. Most of the characters in the comic are sexual in a way that feels funny and silly more than powerful. (The closest thing to an exception is Mind****.)

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I would tend to reject that conception of 'sexual empowerment' and defend the silliness and fun as something that is in itself sexually empowering
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-01-13 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I would certainly agree that a character can be sexually empowered while being playful, but it needs to . . . augh, I don't have the words to phrase this properly. I guess I'd say that it needs to be on their terms as well as the author's. When the characters in Empowered are sexy, I can't really disconnect it from the leering eye of the artist. I think it's possible to do sexy so that the creator seems to disappear, and that's what I'd call empowered.

To try to give an example of this, I mentioned Mind**** because, to me at least, it feels like she gets "sexy" with Sistah Spooky because that's natural for the two of them. It fits with who they are and how they relate to each other. Of course, I'm not saying that Emp and Thugboy don't fit together, but it felt like Thugboy existed at first for Emp to be sexy with, not like they were sexy together as part of existing together. Thugboy's personality grew in later, and to some degree, I think that still affects how him and Emp are written.

(I'm leaving Ninjette out of this because I'm not really sure how to classify her.)

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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Ever notice that when a man is 'sexually empowered' he tends to be fully dressed, but when a woman is 'sexually empowered' she's usually mostly naked?

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
fucked up if true

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
what are examples of sexually empowered dude? i don't think i've ever heard one called that.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-01-13 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I once saw someone argue for the guys from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
James Bond?

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Austin Powers.

Re: Also from empowered

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Re: Also from empowered

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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
examples? I can't think of any men.

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
If "sexually empowered" means "will sleep with pretty much anything", then Jack Harkness fits your bill.

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Ever noticed how sexually empowered is a thing men almost never are

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yep.

Kara Thrace (Starbuck)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
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Re: Kara Thrace (Starbuck)

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
YES.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-01-13 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say most of the characters of Grey's Anatomy, and I appreciate that for the most part the women are sexually empowered in a they like sex and their own pleasure kind of way, not in a being hot for men kind of way. The show may be basically a soap opera, but this is one of the things that makes me love it in spite of that.

This is especially true for Meredith, Christina, and Callie.

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-01-13 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. I tried to think about male protagonists who use their sexuality in a way that is sex positive or generally empowering, and the only characters I really came up with were villains. And possibly Gambit if you consider that his playboy veneer is often employed in the same manner as your average femme fatale would bat her eyelashes to get her way... which I suppose technically makes that a subversion of that trope.

That's just a sad state of affairs right there.
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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-01-13 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Dmitri, from Spacetrawler. He's a guy who gets shangai'd into space and his primary reaction is to sleep with as many alien races as possible, and also help save the universe.

This post brought to you by my never-ending love for that comic
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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-01-13 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm . . . By that logic, is James Bond sexually empowered? (I'd at least say yes for Connery's Bond.)

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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'd actually say MAYBE Jim Kirk from Star Trek TOS. He often used his sexuality to get information out of women or to save the crew.

Legit or no?

NOT the reboot version, though, mind you.

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-01-13 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Maaaybe legit? I haven't seen too much of TOS, and definitely not enough to know whether Kirk's behaviour is really sex positive or just a cursory nod to the free love movement of the era.

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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-14 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm totally missing the point, but it is SO WEIRD for me to see boobs drawn in pointy, concave lines.

They're convex! CONVEX I SAY!