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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-12 05:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2931 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2931 ⌋

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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-01-13 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. I tried to think about male protagonists who use their sexuality in a way that is sex positive or generally empowering, and the only characters I really came up with were villains. And possibly Gambit if you consider that his playboy veneer is often employed in the same manner as your average femme fatale would bat her eyelashes to get her way... which I suppose technically makes that a subversion of that trope.

That's just a sad state of affairs right there.
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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-01-13 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Dmitri, from Spacetrawler. He's a guy who gets shangai'd into space and his primary reaction is to sleep with as many alien races as possible, and also help save the universe.

This post brought to you by my never-ending love for that comic
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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-01-13 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm . . . By that logic, is James Bond sexually empowered? (I'd at least say yes for Connery's Bond.)
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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-01-13 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe! I think you could make the argument for Connery's Bond and probably for Craig's Bond (and re: that comment above about empowered guys with their clothes off, you could probably actually cite that scene in Casino Royale where Bond comes out of the water in the swimsuit).

That said, I think it's very different tonally in Spacetrawler - MUCH less "conquest by amazing male self-insert fantasy" and much more two beings mutually having fun. I don't know, it's hard to describe kind of.

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-01-13 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Nooooooooope. Craig's bond in Skyfall shags a woman who has literally just told him she's a sex slave. She doesn't even say yes, he just walks up behind her when she's having a shower and bangs her.

Bond forever disqualified.
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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] cushlamochree 2015-01-13 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
I never actually saw Skyfall.

Sooooooooo, that kind of sounds like it sucks.

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
na

Ugh, there was so much fuckery in Skyfall that I honestly just try to pretend that it doesn't exist and it was all some character's weird feverdream
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Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2015-01-13 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
Well it's supposed to be an early bond before he grows into the later bonds, it kinda scratches him off the likability list no matter how much he "improves" (kinda sorta) in the future.

I'm with herpy on this, I don't know what the fuck they were thinking but they really soured her with that. He got her killed to. Like, it was really confusing how his subsequent actions could do anything but get her killed. I can't tell if he took the stupid pills or was supposed to be ruthless, but if it was the latter it was stupidly ruthless.

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-13 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'd actually say MAYBE Jim Kirk from Star Trek TOS. He often used his sexuality to get information out of women or to save the crew.

Legit or no?

NOT the reboot version, though, mind you.

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-01-13 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Maaaybe legit? I haven't seen too much of TOS, and definitely not enough to know whether Kirk's behaviour is really sex positive or just a cursory nod to the free love movement of the era.

Re: pyf sexually empowered protagonist

(Anonymous) 2015-01-23 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Gene Roddenberry didn't need to make cursory nods to the free love movement.

Gene Roddenberry lived that shit.

Sometimes too much so.