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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-13 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2932 ]


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Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
This. I've actually stopped caring about social issues because I've gotten so tired of seeing them everywhere and having them shoved into my face when all I want to do is talk about the latest episode of my favorite show or speculate on what's going to happen in the next book of a series I'm reading.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
lol You didn't care about them that much in the first place if a bunch of loud mouths on the internet made you change your mind. nothing wrong with not caring, just don't pretend you gave a fuck in the first place.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Horseshit. Pick your favorite thing in the world. Now spend years associating that thing directly with bullying. Being bullied yourself, seeing other people bullied and being afraid to step in in case they turn on you next. That's now the first thing that comes to mind when you think of your favorite thing. Oh, wait, you don't like it as much now, because that's literally how association works in human brains? Then I guess it was never really your favorite.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Huh-huh.

Yep.

Sure.

Alrighty then.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
This.

Everyone accepts that association works positively, such as the Pavlovian experiment, but why is it so hard to understand that it works even more powerfully for negative association, purely because our brains have evolved with a powerful negative bias (and the desire to avoid the thing that causes the negative feeling)?

How the hell else do they think behavioral therapy works?

Here's a clue: your amygdala doesn't give a fuck how much you love something. If being around it causes it pain and stressors, then it's going to tell you never to go near it again.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Oh please. It's sad that you were bullied, but you know, you guys that can just say "fuck social justice because it's stresses us" aren't the only ones.

I feel some measure for sympathy for you people, because real SJWs can be pains in the ass, but only so much. Some of us who were also bullied can't shut things down and stop caring about ~social justice~ issues because it's our lives. I can't stop ignoring that I was called the n-word by classmates constantly and then stop caring about shit like that because of stressors due to SJWs wanting to get the upper hand in arguments and troll people.

You know, I really don't care if you people supposedly suddenly stopped caring about shit, but don't pretend you are the only people who had it rough during grade school.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Exactly how many random and unsubstantiated assumptions can you make in a single post?

Apparently this many.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
"You people."

LOL.
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Re: I agree with you OP

[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2015-01-14 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
I had to look up the word amygdala. And it's early and I'm not awake and I'm not even able to comprehend what side of the issue you're on yet (first cup of coffee.) But I wanted to thank you for making me learn a new word.

That's always awesome.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
It's strange that you toss in a mention of behavioral therapy, since one of the aims of CBT is to correct the kind of negative associations you're talking about.

We aren't slaves to our biology or to our brains. We're able to recognize when something we're feeling doesn't make sense or is detrimental, and we're able to say "I want to change how I'm feeling about this." We're even able to make ourselves do things that make us uncomfortable when we know it's a good course of action. You guys are looking for excuses to not have to care about what's right and wrong, and that makes you bad people.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
So because CBT therapy has never worked for me, I'm an inherently bad person. Well, thanks for letting me know.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
You appear to have reading comprehension problems, if nothing else.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Except no because that's your core argument. If people are affected by negative things and attempts to correct it fail, they are inherently bad people.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Equal rights and social justice aren't a fucking hobby you asswipe. If people being loud on the internet makes you stop caring whether or not someone has the same rights someone else does, that says a lot about you, not about how much you just ~love~ crocheting.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
And yet that doesn't change how human brains work in the real world. Huh.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
People are primed to be racist and sexist in a similar way to how people are primed to hold negative associations. So, should we just throw up our hands and not try to fix racism and sexism, since we can't change how human brains work in the real world?

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
And you think screaming at people for liking one character will change them?
Hell, why you think liking anything in fandom means someone is -ist?

Because that is what SJW do in fandom and I have a hard time believing they're making a difference. Or, well, maybe they're, but I'm pretty sure making people stop taking SJ seriously is not a good thing.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
No, a hobby is a hobby, and when I'm participating in my hobbies, I don't want the shit I have to deal with in real life dragged into something that I do for fun and to escape that shit.

Re: I agree with you OP

(Anonymous) 2015-01-14 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
i kinda agree in the sense that bad sj isn't an excuse to be an ass about social issues, but i also think being constantly reminded how awful the world is can make certain people just shut off from it too.