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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-15 09:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2934 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2934 ⌋

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scrubber: Naota from Fooly Cooly (Default)

Re: Ships you don't or can't ship.

[personal profile] scrubber 2015-01-16 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
So we are alike after all. /touches u

Can we both agree that season 2 onwards Bolin is consistently one of the worst things about the show? What the fuck HAPPENED.

Re: Ships you don't or can't ship.

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-01-16 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
We can agree that Bolin got shit on by the writers post season 2 and just got paired off wildly with the Blandest McBland of all time.

Still best character. Worst arcs. WHY WRITERS. Why would you do this to my Brolin?!?!
scrubber: Naota from Fooly Cooly (Default)

Re: Ships you don't or can't ship.

[personal profile] scrubber 2015-01-16 06:49 am (UTC)(link)
But he could bend lava! That's the same thing as character development right? When things just happen to you, that's the same as making choices yourself right?

The funny thing is Bolin didn't even get the worst of this, Salami did. She never had any kind of unique or unexpected trait or ambition, whenever the writers wanted to develop her character they just made something bad happen to her so she could be sad and look beautiful. Like... that was her character.

Tumblr loved it though, so clearly the writers are far wiser than I.

Re: Ships you don't or can't ship.

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-01-16 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Yeaaah. I've said it before and I'll say it again: some aspects of the writing for TLoK were way better than TLA (the narrative structure, world politics) but others just stunk (overall character development).

Jumping between villains every season just kind of put the kibosh on developing any lasting affection for the antagonists, and introducing so many different characters all at once didn't allow for any long personal arcs like there were in TLA.
scrubber: Naota from Fooly Cooly (Default)

Re: Ships you don't or can't ship.

[personal profile] scrubber 2015-01-16 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
Oof, we'll have to disagree there. Except animation, I don't think a single aspect of LOK was stronger that ATLA. The politics of that world may have been fairly simple but they were effective, well executed, and easy to understand. That's pretty much the thesis statement of why ATLA was better, simple but effective. Ozai may have been a complete and utter cartoon, but I actually felt he was a threat with tangible goals. He may not have had an arc, but his character still interacted with the environment and, more importantly, other characters in a way that fucking made sense. A lot of the ambiguity of LOK's writing is clearly not even intentional, it's just the product of bad writing. The writers had nooooooooooo goddamn business tackling issues that they had such a shallow understanding of, and while simultaneously tossing out cheap, dissonant morals and themes. It's actually pretentious, not the watered down internet-definition, but in the truest meaning of the word. The show had such a pretense of tackling BIG ISSUES and BIG EMOTIONS and it couldn't deliver even ONCE.

That and Worst Girl won.

Re: Ships you don't or can't ship.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-16 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Joining in to say that I still think some of the politics of LOK were more interesting than ATLA. The villains of LOK were sadly a lot less developed, but their motivations were still more interesting than the stereotypical 'power-hungry and evil' that we saw with Ozai. I especially enjoyed the exploration/deconstruction of fascism with Kuvira in the last season.
But yeah, the time constraints of the show still didn't allow things to be as properly developed as they were in ATLA.