[ SECRET POST #2935 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2935 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Ms. Marvel]


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[Paul Hollywood and Mary Berry in The Great British Bake Off]


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[Phylicia Rashad aka Claire Huxtable from The Cosby Show]


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[Harry Potter]


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[The Giver]


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[Laura Pausini & Thalia]


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[Skullgirls]


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[Iain from Great British Bake Off, series 5]


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14. [ SPOILERS for Doctor Who ]



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15. [ SPOILERS for Hatoful Boyfriend ]



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16. [ SPOILERS for Transformers: Robots in Disguise 2015 ]



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17. [ SPOILERS for Legend of Korra ]



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18. [ SPOILERS for this ]




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19. [ WARNING for abuse ]




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20. [ WARNING for rape ]
















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #419.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

09. http://i.imgur.com/VlkhtNJ.png
[Harry Potter]

[(Anonymous)]

I think that's silly and I honestly don't understand how you could find the book death boring. But to each their own.

[lb_lee]

I've never actually read all of Harry Potter (yes, I know, shame shame) but honestly, I'd find an anticlimactic death kind of refreshing.

I'm of the belief that evil is banal. It is not clever or sexy or mysterious. It is trite, tawdry, and tacky, and an evil person's death often leaves a sense of letdown, rather than relief. Nothing has changed, except now they're dead.

Dammit, now I actually WANT to read Harry Potter again.

[cushlamochree]

I would say evil can be banal. I'd have a hard time accepting that it always is. Sometimes you really do have some demonic person who just wants to watch the world burn.

And certainly, if it's a work of entertainment, I can understand someone who's more entertained by an evil overlord than by an Eichmann. Even if that's mostly not quite on the money morally.

also harry potter the best forever

[lb_lee]

Sometimes you really do have some demonic person who just wants to watch the world burn.

I've encountered some of those people, and in my experience, they THOUGHT they were Heath Ledger's Joker when really, they were more this Joker. Still dangerous but... not nearly as cool as they thought they were.

I'm not saying those true masterminds don't exist, but for every one of them, I think there's a hundred assholes who just THINK they're that mastermind.

[cushlamochree]

Oh, sure, I'm only speaking to mindset, not to actual competence and ability to pull things off. Let alone sense of style or flair.

[lb_lee]

Oh yeah, the mindset totally exists. It just tends to be far cooler in fiction than reality.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmmm, I agree that it's often banal, rather than sexy, clever, and mysterious. I do sometimes find it annoying how often evil gets sort of romanticized by people, and one reason I liked Umbridge as a villain so much was that she was an evil character who didn't have anything particularly sexy or mysterious about her (and was closer to the kind of "evil" most people reading Harry Potter are likely to have actually encountered, which is probably why so many people hate her).

I don't think I'd go so far as to say it's always tacky and tawdry, though. Some people (and some creators of fiction) actually take that idea a little too far, though I don't think it's as popular as it used to be. The classy, unobtrusive, intelligent person? Pretty obviously good. The tacky nouveau-riche show-off who dresses badly but doesn't realize it? BAD, duh!

Some people who could be considered evil are pretty good at hiding it and making themselves seem likeable, classy, normal. Not dark and mysterious, of course - that doesn't really work in real life, but not outwardly tacky and gross, either.

[lb_lee]

Yeah, Umbridge is way more interesting to me than Voldemort. The romanticization of evil just really creeps me out, honestly. I mean, I get it, people want to believe that folks wouldn't do such heinous things unless they had some kind of understandable reason... but a lot of the time, no, it's just some pathetic schmuck with their head up their ass.

I guess by tacky and tawdry, I don't mean how they look or dress so much as the behaviors they perform. They don't inspire awe or "oh crap" moments, so much as disgust. Like, "Really? All the things you could've done, and you do THAT?"

It's true, some people can hide it. But pretty much all the most horrible people I've personally run afoul of, people KNEW they were creepy. They had documented lists of horrible behavior, and it took an army of supporters and people turning a blind eye to allow it to continue, because nobody actually wanted to admit someone they liked could be that heinous.

da

[(Anonymous)]

Thing is, you can't really romanticize a hero without romanticizing the villain. Sweeping, world-altering acts of heroism need an opposing force that's just as grand in scale to match them, and a lot of people need world-altering heros. They're not really realistic, on either side, but they're interesting - and sometimes it's a lot easier to watch their struggle than to watch something that just serves as a reminder of how many vile, banal little shits are out there.

Re: da

[lb_lee]

That's fair. I admit, I tend to enjoy heroes and villains alike when it's more on a small everyday scale.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure you're not alone given the success and popularity of action movies, but I much, MUCH preferred the book version...

[(Anonymous)]

Never read the books, never saw the movies, but that image looks laughably horrifying. I'm assuming that's what they were going for.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know, I think he got exactly the death he deserved in the book.

I think what you're saying is that it wasn't very cathartic, which I suppose is true. The movie death did have more of a feeling of Good Guy Beats the Bad Guy in a Flawless Victory, which I know it how a lot of people like their endings, but...I don't know. The whole point was that death is sad and meaningless. All the death that he caused and his death were exactly the same in the end: death.

[esteefee]

All the death that he caused and his death were exactly the same in the end: death.

this. right here.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel bad that I am stuck on 'anti-climatic' and I can't look awaaaay. XD

[(Anonymous)]

I found a lot about the last book to be anticlimactic and boring.

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't you post this on Tumblr, like, last week? Or did you steal it from Tumblr?

OP:

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not on Tumblr, so I definitely didn't see this or post it on there. I got both pictures off of Google. I've felt this way about his death for a while, and I just forgot about it until I reread the books.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know that I agree with you, exactly. The movies did a better job of cutting out all those unnecessary characters that ended up fandom darlings, or at the very least, diminishing their roles, so you didn't care as much that SO MANY 'good' characters died and SO FEW 'bad' ones did.

Voldemort's death was supposed to be such a big deal that it would make up for the Creevy brothers, Mad Eye Moody, Madam Bones, Hedwig, Dobby, Scrimgeour, Tonks, Lupin, Fred, Lavender, etc. etc. It doesn't, not in the book and not in the movie, only in the movie, we don't give a crap about any of those characters except Hedwig.

I really wanted to see Umbridge, Bellatrix and Lucius die horrible, painful, bloody deaths and at least see Draco maimed or end up in the long-term ward at St. Mungo's. Instead, Umbridge and Bella die off-page and off-screen and Lucius and Draco get away with being racist, bullying assholes.

[(Anonymous)]

Didn't Bellatrix die on-page? I thought Molly killed her.

[ceebeegee]

She did indeed, after Molly's famous "Not my daughter, you BITCH" line.

Umbridge didn't die, she went to Azkaban, per Pottermore.

Also it wasn't both Creevey brothers, just Colin.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. Molly killed her, and it was in front of Harry. IDK what AYRT is smoking.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. It honestly wasn't satisfying that it was so simple, after all he'd done. His actions are what made him human, horrible as he was.

Not a simple "mundane" death.

Transcript

[(Anonymous)]

Image: scan from HP7 with the passage of Voldemort’s death. The line “Tom Riddle hit the floor with a mundane finality,” is underlined in red. Below is a screen cap of Voldemort’s movie death.

Text: I liked his movie death better.

I understand why he died a human death. I get the point Rowling was trying to make.

It was still anti-climactic and boring.