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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-17 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2936 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2936 ⌋

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Re: Not!fandom Secret Post

[personal profile] tasogare_n_hime 2015-01-17 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Lately I've been spending way too much time wondering about things like when the very first languages were formed. Who came up with the words, who decided what words would be applied to what things, and why did they decide that?

Also stupid really stuff, like why was that guy on the phone with Jake from State Farm at three in the morning?

Re: Not!fandom Secret Post

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-01-17 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That guy and Jake from State Farm were having phone sex. Duh.

Also, the way language probably evolved was ...well, much the same way the meme exists today. One early human likely pointed at something and then made a noise. Other people then started pointing at the same object and making noises for it.

It's evident back in the earliest forms of English, for example, that grammar and spelling in written language weren't quite... regulated the same way they are now. There used to be a half dozen ways to spell the same word, and as many grammatical conventions for sentence structure as there were authors. But, over time people simultaneously decided that one particular form or another just sounded "right" (ie. most pleasing, or likely easiest and most recognizable for neural processing) and it simplified itself.

I'm no linguist, but from a psychology perspective, this is the theory that tends to make the most sense to me.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-18 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Would there be a point if human history when there was no language and then people created a new one? I mean monkeys also have ways of communication so would that be something that just sort of evolved so early homo sapiens had that? When is something a language and not a collection of alarm signals anyway?
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Re: Not!fandom Secret Post

[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-01-18 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, there are ways to study spontaneous language creation! It happens whenever you have enough deaf kids to hang out with each other. They will spontaneously create their own sign language! (One of my old profs, for instance, the sign language created by this... he wasn't Inuit, but he was one of those small isolated populations in the same region, and he had created his own sign language so he could communicate with the other people around him.)

It's actually really fucking cool!
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Re: Not!fandom Secret Post

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2015-01-18 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
If you're really interested about who, how, and why languages first formed in human society, there's actually a really good book about exactly this I just read, called "Adam's Tongue", by David Bickerton.

Basically, a lot of the existing theories about how language first formed revolve around either hunters trying to cooperate with each other, or infants trying to convey needs to their mothers, and tends to involve studying primate communications. This guy does a pretty good job of taking apart those theories, and looking at other animal communication systems (it turns out human language's closest relative may actually be bees' dancing and ant hormones), and his theory on the origin of language in humanity as a species is much more believable than just about anything else I've read or heard of. :)
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Re: Not!fandom Secret Post

[personal profile] tasogare_n_hime 2015-01-18 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I will definitely look into that.