[ SECRET POST #2938 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2938 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Constantine]


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[Dragon Age]


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04.
[Merlin]


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05.
[Pokemon]


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06.
[The Americans]


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[Doctor Who]


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08.
[Twisted Toyfare]


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09.
[Black Books]


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[World of Warcraft]













Notes:

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

My (female Cousland) Warden made the Ultimate Sacrifice without giving it a second thought. Morrigan's ritual was a horrifying idea for her -- giving an unborn child the soul of an ancient false-god dragon? Which might also be influenced by being an Archdemon? And doing who-knows-what to the actual soul of the baby (or the soul the Maker would have put in it, or however it works), to boot. There's also the fact that this was being done by Morrigan, who the Warden liked, but, well, you'd think she'd be a bit more wary of the idea of creating a child specifically to be the victim of mystic soul-transfer experimentation, given her background. (And there's also the fact that this could very well have been an idea planted in her head by Flemeth for her own reasons. Morrigan learned all she knew about magic from Flemeth, and I wouldn't trust Flemeth to give her complete and accurate information in the slightest, meaning it's hard to trust what Morrigan says about the ritual not causing any problems.) Creating some potential god-monster-abomination that could do who-knows-what to the world just to save her own life struck my Warden as very, very selfish and short-sighted. It broke her heart to send Morrigan away, but given the circumstances, she just had to.

After that, it came down to her or Alistair for the sacrifice, and again it was no contest. She'd gotten Alistair and Anora married -- Alistair had the bloodline, and Anora the actual ruling skills. It was what was best for Ferelden. Sacrificing Alistair would undo all that and send the country back into chaos. The Warden... well, she theoretically had a brother still out there, even if she doubted in her heart he was still alive. The Cousland line might not be extinct, and even if it was, the loss of a Teyrn's family was far less important than the loss of a king. Her only regret was leaving Leliana alone... but again, one person is a small price to pay for saving the world.

[(Anonymous)]

It's never referred to as a "false god" - it's an Old God.

Morrigan says the baby won't be harmed, and will be fine. Morrigan and Flemeth also clearly state that they are against the Blight. It's their world, too, they wouldn't concoct another Archdemon because that would make no sense.

Of course it's a seedy ritual. Distrust at Morrigan's baby is perhaps the only legitimate reasons to deny the ritual, and I was not that worried. In fact I was hoping to see the baby featured in later games. MOrrigan's a bitch, but I don't think she's evil. She wants the baby for her own purposes, but is also offering a lifeline to the wardens. Why not take it.

[(Anonymous)]

And pretty much everyone in the setting does, in fact, believe the Old Gods are false gods. It doesn't need to be referred to as such in the dialogue with Morrigan about the ritual when it's been stated elsewhere that humans and many city elves believe the only true god is the Maker, Dalish and the other city elves believe the true gods are the Creators, and the dwarves don't believe in any gods at all.

[(Anonymous)]

The human character might but there is no reason for an outsider to refer to them as such? Especially since Morrigan herself calls it an Old God, and the baby is always coined the "Old God Baby" (even on Dragon Age Keep) it seems weird for a gamer to impose which gods are fake and which gods are real.

[(Anonymous)]

(Anon who started this branch)

But the fact remains that my female Cousland would indeed think of it as a false god. And I was playing her in character. This wasn't the first time she'd made a decision that was to her detriment gameplay-wise -- when the Crows attacked her, and one of the assassins claimed he wanted to work for her and totally take her side, honest, she didn't believe him. She felt sure that taking an assassin into her camp would just open her up to having her throat slit one night, regardless of how much he swore that the Crows wouldn't take him back. And so she sent Zevran away, losing a party member before he even joined. Just because I as the player knew he'd never do that, didn't mean I could justify my character thinking the same thing.

Furthermore, you don't have to be a devout follower of the Maker to think that bringing back an Old God in one form or another could be a very dangerous thing. They were powerful enough to draw the civilization of the time into worshipping them -- what would they do if brought back and given their own will and power? For that matter, what if Flemeth essentially tricked Morrigan into doing this because she could, say, jump into the body once it was mature, merging with the Old God's soul and gaining its powers for herself? I don't think we can trust the witch who explicitly raised girls just for the purpose of stealing their bodies *not* to do something like that if she could...

That's just a couple of the ways it could go wrong. There are so many others, and so few ways it could actually turn out *well*, that I'm a little surprised so many people think it's the 'right' thing to do, instead of just a risky, somewhat unsavory way to save their own skin.