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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-25 04:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #2944 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2944 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
well i mean i would assume that any person who liked the character would completely disagree with your description of the character, so i am going to go ahead and assume that there's some wiggle room for interpretation here

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe watch/read and then come back with your assumptions?

I don't really think it's possible to comment constructively on something you know nothing about.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
My comment is mostly coming from my opinions on radical violence in media. Because I pretty much think the only requirements for something to be appreciated in that lens is

1) Is there violence?
2) Is it directed against some form of oppression?

As long as those two things are met, it's possible to interpret it in that light IMO. And it gets easier the less the violence is explicitly seen as justified and morally acceptable within the code of society, and the more extreme and radical it is.

So it's more that I can't really figure what point you're going to get at where it can't be considered radical violence. Certainly, the fact that the character comes from money is something that seems mind-bogglingly irrelevant.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
2) Is it directed against some form of oppression?

If it's innocent people, how is 2) true, aside from the victims happening to be men? That's like praising Joker for being feminist because he killed men, therefore fought oppression.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Ikr? Scary how some people think.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
How the fuck is it scary

you realize that I'm talking about this in explicitly fictional terms and in no way endorsing the morality of said actions in real life, right

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The fact that they didn't deserve to die - that they were innocent - in no way stops it from being radical violence. In fact, I would argue that it makes it more radical, and not less.

And I don't think that it's an explicit kind of oppression. But that doesn't mean that it can't come from things relating to patriarchy and that the character's beliefs can't come from a reaction to it.

But I acknowledge that it's possible you're right & all the people talking about it in that light are making it up out of thin air.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2015-01-25 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly think at this point you'd rather the character fit your viewpoint and want to avoid actually seeing it to ensure your head canon's survival. That or you are a better troll then most.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have a headcanon. I'm defending the validity of other peoples' headcanons, not mine.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
patriarchy

Oh fuck you're one of those people

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
lol seriously

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
You're basically saying she's like a terrorist, only on a smaller, more private stage.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not unsaying that.

Okay, yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, and that my friend is the point where trolls just go that ooooone tiny step too far into stupid.

Nice attempt tho.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I said at the beginning that I know it's not a view that most people on f!s agree with.

That doesn't mean that I'm trolling or lying.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it means your talking out of your ass about something you know nothing about.

Which is entirely your prerogative, but good luck getting anyone to listen to a single word you say.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-01-25 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
But, she isn't oppressed? Unless you think being cheated on is oppression. She's quite privileged, in fact (partly yes, because she comes from money).

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"I HAVE OPINIONS!!

I know nothing whatsoever about the content or the context of the thing I'm talking about right now, but I HAVE OPINIONS therefore I'm awesome and clearly correct!"

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
That's literally true tho

I am correct, and awesome

(Anonymous) 2015-01-25 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure.

You keep telling yourself that. I'm pretty sure no one else will.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2015-01-25 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Not necessarily -I think she's fascinating, but I still think she's spoiled and bored - though I do believe her parents were sort of nuts as well and that influenced her childhood.