[ SECRET POST #2945 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2945 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Not a Harem Heaven, It's a Yandere Hell]


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[Game of Thrones]


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04.
[In the Flesh]


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[Hudson Leick as Callisto in Xena, Warrior Princess]


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[Plebcomics]


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07.
[Great British Bake Off]


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[Captain America: The First Avenger]


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09.
[Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE!]


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[Queen]













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Comments

[mekkio]

You must be young because there is always Doc Brown. Doc was not evil, cold or cruel in any way. In the end, he even gave up his chance to return with Marty in order to save the girl. Selfless. (Of course, with Claire and Doc together, you know they would invent an awesome time machine. And they did.)

Still, I did like the scientist in Captain America. (Doesn't help he was played by Tucci. Who is always awesome.) What I liked about him was that he was German. Not German Jewish fleeing because of his background. (Which is a cliche.) But just a simple German who didn't like how his country became a fascist state and fled because of that. Showed how not all Germans were automatic Nazis. Some fought against Hitler in order to get their homeland back.

[(Anonymous)]

just a simple German who didn't like how his country became a fascist state

That quote he had ("People forget that the first country the Germans invaded was their own") was literally my favorite line in the movie.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

YES -- this. It was such a great line.

Although, I will say that I do think Erskine was probably Jewish, although it's never confirmed in the film. He is in some of the comics, anyway. Either way, I liked how the film emphasized his identity as a GERMAN first and foremost because he was someone who clearly loved his country and was fighting to reclaim it.

It was also great to realize how some things that initially didn't make sense to me (such as the inability to replicate the super soldier serum) made perfect sense when you considered Erskine's position. He wouldn't want his work to fall into the wrong hands after what happened with Schmidt and so he didn't write anything down to ensure that he would remain in control of the project or it would die with him.

Re: OP

[silverr]

Ah, I hadn't thought of that last point either, but you're right, that makes sense.

[(Anonymous)]

That quote he had ("People forget that the first country the Germans invaded was their own") was literally my favorite line in the movie.

Ah...and it rubbed me wrong - I understand the sentiment and share it (I assume the sentiment is, as you said, to point out that not all Germans were Nazi supporters), but, hell, there is a vast difference between Hitler's party getting elected in a democratic process and an acctual invasion. It was a nice sounding quote, but, yeah, no, the word "invaded" made me wince, although I really like the character.

[(Anonymous)]

That seems...pretty pedantic, if you ask me. I'd feel pretty comfortable referring to the influence of the Republican Tea Party in the USA right now as an invasion, so I don't understand why invasion with an army and invasion through influencing political matters is a worthwhile distinction.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm, it might be a knee-jerk reaction on my side connected to some current political/historical stuff which I'm not going to go into, as it takes too long to explain properly and probably means nothing to Americans (and many other nations, I just mention Americans, because that's both the creators and the target audience of the film). So, yeah, it's probably me being slightly touchy, I am aware of that, but it does sour me against the quote a bit, because I see this as a hyperbole which is, to me, slightly inappropriate, all things considered.It's the context and the vocabulary.

[(Anonymous)]

Well. . .the real power came after the Reichstag fire and a number of asassinations. The Nazi party did win a lot of the vote in the 1930 election, but after that calling it a "democratic process" starts to get increasingly slippery.

[(Anonymous)]

True, still, there's a big difference between that and let's say, invasion of Poland. As I wrote above, it's my knee-jerk reaction to reading about how people like this quote. I never paid much attention to it before, but seeing it here in this context, it struck me that I do feel slightly uneasy with it. It's the II WW thing - too many discussions about accountability and support and who knew what and who turned blind eye to what kind of news, etc. My associations with this sort of phrasing are not entirely good, that's basically it. If it was the same hyperbole it most likely wou;ldn't bother me at all.

/I guess, I shouldn't have written anything (becuase it strikes me as something very cultural-specific), but I was readlly suprised by my own discomfort and just wrote my comment without thinking ;)

[(Anonymous)]

*eh, what i meant to write was "if it was the same hyperbole referring to something less emotionally-charged (for me), it probably woudn't botehr me at all"

[silverr]

I guess I done't automatically think of Doc Brown in the same way as tghe other two I mentiond because he's got that "loveable eccentric/Nutty Professor" thing going on -- whereas Erskine and Arroway present as more "ordinary" (though no less passionate).