[ SECRET POST #2945 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2945 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Not a Harem Heaven, It's a Yandere Hell]


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03.
[Game of Thrones]


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[In the Flesh]


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[Hudson Leick as Callisto in Xena, Warrior Princess]


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[Plebcomics]


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07.
[Great British Bake Off]


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08.
[Captain America: The First Avenger]


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09.
[Binan Koukou Chikyuu Bouei-bu LOVE!]


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[Queen]













Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

"she posted the place she worked and their contact info and taunted people into calling her workplace, which also factored into her firing. she deserved that plain as day."

You do realize how intensely fucked up that line of thinking is, right?

Or do you also think people who walk alone at night/wear short skirts/otherwise do things that "invite" trouble deserve what they get too?

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

is it really so fucked up that someone got fired for dragging their workplace into an online argument?

are you really going to compare that to rape?

[(Anonymous)]

I'll compare it to anyone doing something that puts them in a position where someone else can take advantage of them, yes.

The fact that they put themselves in that position may very well be stupid, it may very well be reckless and dangerous, but it in no way makes it okay for the person taking that advantage to do it.

YMMV.

[(Anonymous)]

she wasn't taken advantage of, tho. she wasn't a victim. she behaved in a way her work deemed inappropriate and unprofessional, and was fired because of that. or is it victim blaming to refer to a firing as anything other than wrongful? it's possible that she might have faced consequences even had her boss simply stumbled across the post where she dared people to call her work and complain about her.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a pretty big difference, I'd say, between putting yourself in a situation where ypu could be taken advantage of and daring someone + acting unprofessionally.

You comparing this to rape is pretty fucked up.

[(Anonymous)]

Then don't compare it to rape.

Compare it to someone leaving a hundred dollars on the seat of a car that's unlocked.

Compare it to someone leaving their bank details on a park bench.

Compare it to someone getting drunk and wandering around in an area known for muggings.

You're still absolving the perpetrator of any fucked up behavior because your argument is that the other party's behavior "deserved what they got." And that is a) never okay regardless of the situation, and b) the central core of what ANY apologist's argument rests on.

You apparently not seeing that, or choosing not to in this case because it suits your argument, is far, far more fucked up.

[(Anonymous)]

The "perpetrator" in this case is her boss, who fired her for dragging her online drama to her place of work. It isn't "fucked up behavior" to fire an employee for behaving unprofessionally.

[(Anonymous)]

The "perpetrator/s" are whoever drew this to the attention of the boss in the first place, out of petty and chidish "omg someone said something on the internet I don't like!" baby-rage.

[(Anonymous)]

It sounds like both sides were assholes, but she should have known she was dealing with assholes who would act assholishly, given the immediate situation of escalating assholery. So it was just plain stupid of her to give them more ammunition.

If someone is outside my house yelling threats I am not going to unlock the door and dare them to come in and steal my stuff. They still shouldn't do it, but having demonstrated that they would it's dumb of me to make it easy for them.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd compare it more to a fight where arguing escalates and someone says "Well if you hate me so much just kill me!". If the other person does it, they are still the one to blame for it, no matter how much they were provoked.

[(Anonymous)]

SA--it's more like an argument that escalates to the point where someone says, "well if you're so big, let's see you egg my house!" and gives out their street address. The assholes who threw the eggs are still assholes, but the other people who live in the house are still going to be rightfully pissed at the moron who gave out their address.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, but I think getting someone fired just because you don't agree with their opinions is a bir worse than egging someone's house.

[(Anonymous)]

SA--also, since nobody was murdered, and the bad behaviour stops well short of murder, it's a little overzealous to draw that comparison. Actually killing someone is a few degrees more serious than deciding to send a nasty stupid email after someone dared you you do it.

[(Anonymous)]

na

lmao, I love that whenever someone says that someone brought something on themselves, no matter what it was, there's always one asshole who's like "oh, I bet you think some women deserve to be raped too right???" It's fucking stupid, but kind of funny

[(Anonymous)]

Why? That's literally the argument victim-blaming culture uses, and you think it's okay to perpetuate that just because in this instance it happened to someone you don't like, so obvs that's okay and they totally deserved it.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

No. Multiple survivors of rape are telling you to shut it.

You are literally speaking over people who are qualified to speak on this because an artist you like got in trouble.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

You are

a) Assuming I'm not, and therefore talking over me like it's a competition of who's the most traumatized and therefore "qualified".

b) Making this about rape when my original post mentioned several circumstances where the "they deserve it" crap gets trotted out.

c) Assuming I even knew who the hell this artist was before this thread.

d) A bit of an asshole.

[(Anonymous)]

she got fired because her boss saw her unprofessionally dragging her workplace into inappropriate and offensive topics which inherently tied her company into her personal life. it's a common reason to fire people actually

[(Anonymous)]

+ as a survivor of rape id really like you and everybody else to stop fucking using rape as your tool in arguments in which rape isnt even a subject. rape and rape apologism are not fucking comparable to some stupid asshole harassing oppressed groups and then daring them to call her workplace.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Victim-blaming/apologism usually works the same, whether people are blaming little kids for their parents beating them or a person for getting raped. The idea of it is "You did something to justify/excuse someone committing a crime against you".

Whether it's apologism/victim-blaiming for stalking, abuse, harassment, or rape, it all has that core idea behind it.

[(Anonymous)]

no this is literally not comparable. what happened to pleb was not illegal in the slightest. she got fired for causing problems for her employer.

[(Anonymous)]

Harassing a business, and employees in it, is illegal.

[(Anonymous)]

DA-- which is why anyone with any common sense at all wouldn't go out of their way to provide idiots with the means to do so. Of course the idiot harassers should not have done what they did. Pleb was still a reckless idiot to put her colleagues in harm's way like that.

[(Anonymous)]

Harassment is illegal, whether it was dared or not.

[(Anonymous)]

Then how do you feel about people using the "they deserved it" argument when it comes to the behavior of people they don't like?

Would another victim of crime deserve it? When is it acceptable, in that case, to fling that argument around as a judgment of someone's actions?