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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-28 10:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2947 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2947 ⌋

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Sorry, still at work again.

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(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
The thing that bugged me about the way Uhura was written was that she started a whiny convo with her "boyfriend" in the middle of a mission. For me that has nothing to with color; it has to do with the character being badly written in that scene.

Really, although there might be people shallow/bigoted enough to look at a character and say, "Oh a white character, I will automatically love everything they do!" not everyone does this.

Really, they don't.

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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-01-29 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Your assuming racism has to be intentional. Nothing in this secret assumes that it is. Preference for white characters can totally be subconcious and something a person never even realizes.

I'm not sure I agree with the secret given the differing level of predominance of the two characters, but subconcious racial bias is absolutely a thing.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
So this sounds like one can't EVER legitimately criticize a non-white character as a character because it's always racism?

Always?
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-01-29 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
No. Not every criticism is because of unconscious bias, I'm just saying such bias does exist in response to a comment that implied that it didn't.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Add to that the fact that while iconic and important, uhura was a background character so making her more important and especially important for one of the most iconic guys of the whole star trek franchise will generate polarizing reactions.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-30 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
hey, my assuming racism is mine and mine alone.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 09:54 am (UTC)(link)
When you have characters like Kirk whining about Spock the whole movie and your problem is his girlfriend being angry because he seems suicidal, instead, your priorities are flawed.
Boys will be boys?

(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I…don't really think Uhura was worried about Spock being suicidal. She wouldn't have been giving him the silent treatment earlier if that were the case. Moreover, she wouldn't have said "You didn't think what it would do to me" if she thought he was thinking about killing himself. You don't guilt-trip a potentially suicidal person.

I think Uhura, in that scene, was upset with Spock because it seemed to her that he legitimately did not care. And she needed to know that he did.

Which is fair enough, but it shouldn't have happened in the middle of a life or death mission in front of two security members and their boss.

Kirk should have told them both to can it and save it for their quarters. But Kirk is a shit captain in the new films anyway so I'm not surprised he reacted the way he did.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
The comment sounded familiar enough already but you betrayed your being a k/s fan the moment you wrote her "boyfriend" like that.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Fangirls who bitch about their boyfriends forgetting the color of the dress they wore 5 months ago calling a fictional character who is dating a motherfucker vulcan 'whiny' for having a reaction when he doesn't seem to care about her and their relationship..

(Anonymous) 2015-01-29 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
How did you manage to be misogynist while criticizing someone else's misogyny

How