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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-01-31 03:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2950 ]


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(Anonymous) 2015-01-31 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I wandered into fandom briefly after DA:O, and then briefly again after DA:2, and probably will give it a shot when I finally finish DA:I... but I was a bit shocked at all the het and serious lack of slash. I mean, a series with canon gay? and one hot twinky bottom Fenris, grade A yaoi material, was almost completely written het in the places I tried... what a disappointment.

yeah yeah write what you like and all, but since most of the fic was obvious self-inserts anyway, I gave up.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-31 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it kinda demonstrates that a lot of slash is about a certain kind of fetish. Put a gay character into the canon, and suddenly it's not fun anymore.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-31 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
That's quite the jump to make, and I'm not following it. I'd say it says more about the interests of the (female, generally) gamers who play Dragon Age. Especially given the option to create an avatar, which often players will have align with their own genders and basically live through them. Since most of them are also probably straight, they are probably writing stories from their experiences with the game, which basically promotes a self-insert type immersion and thus ends up being heterosexual.

I mean, I specifically created a male Hawke for Dragon Age 2 so I could romance Fenris. If that hadn't been a factor, I would've played female Hawke too.

I'm hoping fandom will have a healthy amount of Iron Bull/Dorian, as it doesn't involve the player's avatar. I remember there being quite a bit of Anders/Fenris for DA2, and that one took a helluva lot of justification, but it's nice to get away from romances that the player's character isn't involved.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-31 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol no. There's quite a lot of slash involving canon gay and bi characters in many fandoms. This is more an exception than the rule.

(Anonymous) 2015-01-31 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I dont think this is true. Ive been in fandoms where the canon gay ones are the most popular, and one where once the gay characters love interest became a thing the other pairings shipping him with the straight characters all but died off.

There is tons of MHawke/Anders (or Fenris) and hell even Fenris/Anders fic wise. And now with DA:I Im seeing all sorts of Dorian pairings and the like

(Anonymous) 2015-01-31 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
tell that to the rabid klaine fans...

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
"Certain kind of fetish" - what, het's not?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Is having a sexual orientation a fetish now?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Het fic, not heterosexuality.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
right. that's why there's no dorian slash, and that's why the da2 fandom doesn't ship anders/fenris for some inexplicable reason. oh, wait.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
There's actually a lot of m/m on the kink meme and within the fandom.

The sad shortage is f/f which, by this logic, should have tons of representation within fanworks but absolutely does not.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've noticed that there are more M/F fics right after a new game is released, then M/M starts catching up once people start getting over their unflavored oatmeal Cullen/Trevelyan feels. F/F always lags pretty far behind.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
It's cute you think the biggest het pairing is Trevelyan/Cullen xD Not by a long shot.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Where did I say that, exactly? I hardly think that the pairing's popularity has anything to do with what I was stating in my comment, which was that, IME, M/F pairings are more popular right after a game is released, but that M/M pairings catch up in popularity as the game ages. I only mentioned Cullen/Trevelyan because it was the first het pairing from DA:I that came to mind. If you prefer, do feel free to mentally replace any and all mentions of "Cullen/Trevelyan" in my comment with "F!PC/M!LI pairing du jour."

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I haven't played the game yet, but is there an origin/pairing for DA:I that's the fandom's darling? Because I remember years ago Alistair/Cousland (with the Warden as the Queen, naturally :/) was EVERYWHERE. And when DA2 came out it seemed like every fic had a mage Hawke who always ran away with her fugitive boyfriend.

Before the game came out I saw that the Trevelyan Inquisitor was from a noble family and figured she would be the origin the fandom would latch on to. But from what I'm hearing Solas/Lavellan seems to be more popular? That's...unusual. Humans are generally the most popular origins, so I'm a bit surprised.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Human is still the most popular origin, but Solas can only be romanced by female elves and it hit a lot of people's buttons. It's by far the most popular pairing in fics. That's where you'll find the most people obsessed with the romance, most snowflake sues and people saying things like "this romance ruined me" and "it's THE romance in the game."

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Solavellan is hugely popular because it's the most Special Snowflake romance in the game, and Solas is hugely important to the overarching lore. A huge portion of his fans are obsessed with making him even more important than he is, and a bunch of them seem convinced that Female Lavellans are on track to become immortal, for reasons.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Give people a chance to date a god and they'll take it...
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[personal profile] i_paint_the_sky 2015-02-01 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
I'd still say Cullen/f!Inquisitor (generally mage!Inquisitor, though not necessarily mage!Trevelyan) is a bit more popular, but it and Solas/Lavellan are definitely pretty close.

Looking at filled prompts, Cullen/f!Inquisitor has 132 fics and Solas/Lavellan has 120.

I pulled up numbers on A03 the other day ...

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
F Inq/Cullen 578
F Lavellan/Solas 405
Fenris/ F Hawke 387
Anders/ F Hawke 361
Anders/ M Hawke 360
Fenris/ M Hawke 340
Alistar/ F Cousland 325
Cullen / F Trevelyan 320
F Inq / Solas 233
Anders/Fenris 176

Re: I pulled up numbers on A03 the other day ...

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Some of your numbers seem a bit off. Anders/Fenris has 509 fics (http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Anders*s*Fenris/works)

Fenris/M!Hawke has 529 (http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Fenris*s*Male%20Hawke/works)

Anders/M!Hawke has 686 (http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Anders*s*Male%20Hawke/works)

I didn't check the rest, but I went ahead and did these three because I thought the numbers looked pretty low. Were there other filters applied or something?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
M/M is no more inherently interesting than M/F, F/F, or unicorn/jackalope.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
who said anything about M/M being inherently more interesting?

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-01 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
what exactly are you replying to?

and yes, M/M IS inherently more interesting when... you are inherently more interested in M/M. I have zero interest in het and won't read it, unless it's some odd rare pairing that I actually do care about, and even then, I'll skip over the sex scenes.

Interesting is 100% a matter of preference.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-02 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I think F/F is lagging especially behind on the DA:I meme because of the fandom's general poor response to Sera. :(