[ SECRET POST #2950 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2950 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Fuck you Fandom secrets.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that there's a lot of validity to that point. But it would also seem like it kind of relies on being able to determine relative levels of comfort and discomfort? Because, like, if it were a case where someone could make themselves extremely more comfortable while only making other people a very little uncomfortable, we'd be okay with that. So it seems like you fall into subjective experiences again.

And just to be clear, I'm not really trying to defend manspreading here! I think it's probably just people being dicks, and I'm not really trying to argue that it's that big of an issue in terms of comfort. I'm much more interested in the underlying logic going on. I hope that I haven't given any wrong impressions here but I really am sincerely interested in what you think about it.

Re: Fuck you Fandom secrets.

[diet_poison]

I guess I hadn't thought that far (the extreme discomfort thing) because as far as I've ever heard it's not extreme discomfort. I have no personal experience as such one of several perks of having indoor plumbing! but I've never seen a man claim it's on the level of extreme discomfort or pain.

However, I have experienced having peoples' body parts in my space on public transit - and NOT just men. It's usually men if it's legs, but men and women alike are reckless with their elbows. :/ I really, really do not like it. I wouldn't say it's extreme discomfort, either, though. (Could be if the person was pushy or creepy but I've experienced far more uncomfortable things.)

In an instance where one person's slight discomfort/inconvenience can alleviate another's great discomfort/inconvenience...it kind of depends. Say you're stopped at a traffic light for a minute so one person can make a turn they otherwise would have had to wait ten minutes to make. That's a reasonable expectation - that you'll stop at traffic lights to allow other traffic to pass. But we also have rules that you agree to when you apply for a driver's license. You voluntarily agree to accept those terms. So I'm not sure that's a great example. And the rules of the road have nothing to do with bodily integrity, which in my mind includes personal space. I find it hard to justify ever forcing someone to give up their bodily autonomy for the sake of someone else's comfort.