[ SECRET POST #2951 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2951 ⌋

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[The To-Do List, Brandy/Willy]


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[Avatar: Legend of Korra]


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[The Amazing World of Gumball]


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[Agents of Shield]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Galavant]


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[Soukyuu no Fafner Exodus]


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[Jamie Dornan from "The Fall"]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm against laws prohibiting any speech.

The answer to speech we disagree with is not "make it illegal." It's "more speech."

[sarillia]

I just asked the other anon, but what about laws against slander? I'm wondering if hate speech can be considered a kind of slander against a group. Or should slander not be illegal either because no speech should be prohibited?

[(Anonymous)]

Slander and libel are, I believe (IANAL), civil rather than criminal matters. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone going to jail for that, and it's extremely difficult to win a lawsuit claiming such. It would be even more difficult to win a class action suit.

And where do you draw the line? What classes of people get protected? What classes of people don't? I've seen absolutely vile hate speech directed at straight white men, for example, simply on the basis that they are straight, white, and male--not to mention what gets hurled at conservative women of color. I'm not sure that's a path we want to go down.

[sarillia]

I may ask my girlfriend since I'm curious now. She just finished law school and is studying for the bar exam.

As for drawing the line, I don't claim to have an answer. I'm generally in favor of judging things on a case by case basis. But a big part of the argument against hate speech involves an incitement to violence, which is illegal. So I suppose the argument is that straight white men are incited to violence against other groups more often than the other way around. I don't know. I'm against generalizations about any group.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Generally, the classes of people that are protected are the same classes of people that are protected from institutionalized prejudice.

[(Anonymous)]

What about active threats? Should I be legally free to say I'm going to blow up a school or threaten t murder someone?

I mean, I'm for free speech too, but even as it exists it does have limits, which are more reasonable than not.