[ SECRET POST #2952 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2952 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Tales of Zestiria]


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03.
[Strange Magic]


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04.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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[Star Trek: TNG]


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06.
[Person of Interest]


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07.
(Dangan Ronpa)


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08.
(Splash, Daryl Hannah)


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09.
[Once Upon a Time]


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[VH1's Hindsight]













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Comments

[siofrabunnies]

What cheapened Legolas in the Hobbit movies for me was that, not only is it a personal, romantic reason for hating dwarves instead of overcoming society, but he's learning someone else's lesson.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. This is the reason I didn't like Tauriels character arc.

[lunabee34]

Huh.

I didn't see it that way at all. Obviously it's all open to interpretation, but I see Legolas in the movies (frankly, he's almost a no-character in all the books to me; very flat with little characterization, just like most of the other characters; and it's been several years since I re-read the books, so I can't speak to book!Legolas with any confidence) as a victim of his father's isolationist outlook. I think he is indifferent and/or hostile toward dwarves in the movies because his father is and he's been reared that way. I don't think at the end of the movie he hates dwarves because Tauriel had a romance (or the aborted thought of a romance) with one; I think he is confused and pissed off at his dad and really needs to rethink some things, but I don't think he leaves at the end of the movies hating dwarves. I think he leaves with many of his negative opinions about them reinforced as a result of Thorin's behavior (he's not privy to Thorin's bedside apology) alongside a new reality that all dwarves don't think/feel/behave the way Thranduil clearly thinks they do.

So I don't think the tension between Gimli and Legolas in the first LoTR movie should now be interpreted as Legolas being angry that Tauriel fell in love with a dwarf and now he hates all dwarves. How stupid would that anger be anyway, especially from the perspective of someone immortal? I mean, she loves him for five minutes and then he dies. Before the hobbit movies, I read that tension as the result of the institutionalized racism another commenter mentioned in this thread, and I read it that way still. I read it as Legolas having left the Greenwood to mull things over and probably not encountering any other dwarves in the interim between leaving the battlefield of Erebor and encountering Gimli and Gloin in Rivendell. I see him as still conflicted and confused but very swiftly open to change because the groundwork has already been laid.

Sorry to go all tl;dr on you. :) I got a little carried away. (Also not trying to be annoyingly argumentative; I just apparently have some opinions about this LOL)

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. It changes his reason for disliking dwarves (somewhat nonsensically, if he's worked with and fought with them before, which means the real reason for disliking them boils down to jealousy over Tauriel) but it also turns Tauriel into the resolution of his own prejudices.

[(Anonymous)]

Also Legolas's introduction in The Hobbit shows him being far more anti-dwarf that he was in the entirety of LOTR. One snarky line and a few eye-rolls is nowhere near the vicinity of his assertion that he'd find killing a dwarf pleasurable. imho, that's far worse than any other anti-dwarf sentiment expressed in the LOTR and Hobbit films.