[ SECRET POST #2952 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2952 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Tales of Zestiria]


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03.
[Strange Magic]


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04.
[Sleepy Hollow]


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05.
[Star Trek: TNG]


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06.
[Person of Interest]


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07.
(Dangan Ronpa)


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08.
(Splash, Daryl Hannah)


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09.
[Once Upon a Time]


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10.
[VH1's Hindsight]













Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 044 secrets from Secret Submission Post #422.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

01. http://i.imgur.com/zoi3h7r.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

I suppose you could interpret it like that, but honestly, I don't see how you can get away from the fact that it turns Legolas's motives for friendship with Gimli into a reflection of Tauriel. Tauriel turns Legolas into a particularly spiteful character, both by their interactions in the Hobbit, and what she means to Legolas and what she now suddenly represents for the elves in Lord of the Rings.

Honestly, I think Tauriel's arc was the worst way possible Jackson could have written a female elf in The Hobbit. Not to mention the actual writing of the dialogue itself, I still shudder at the memory of her cheesy as fuck dialogue at the end of the last movie...

[iceyred]

I suggest we resolve the Tauriel question by collectively forgetting The Hobbit trilogy exists.

[(Anonymous)]

I second the motion.

[(Anonymous)]

Thirded!

People who like it can still like it, but I personally can live without it.

[(Anonymous)]

This, please.

(spoilers)

how the hell did she not die at the end though? Yes, it would've been predictable, but frankly the whole movie was so bad, and imo Tauriel was such a bad character, I was kind of hoping we'd see a definite end of her. didn't she like break her back... and then was fine a couple scenes later?

[(Anonymous)]

Hear, hear!

[tabaqui]

Fifthed or Sixthed or something.
*sigh*

[(Anonymous)]

The beauty of the Legolas/Gimli friendship (or romance if you see it that way) was that it was overcoming institutional racism. Gimli might have reason to think badly about Legolas because Thranduil imprisoned his dad. But, I never had the sense that Gimli or the other Dwarves were anything to Legolas at all. I never go that he "hated" them at all. He just had certain prejudices against Dwarves -- nothing from his own experience, just stereotypes his people carried.

But then he got to know Gimli and realized the truth.

It bugs me that now Legolas has this specific reason to dislike Dwarves or emotional baggage to overcome or whatever the fuck the Tauriel/Kili thing did to him. It was much more interesting to me to see someone overcome institutional racism, rather than some personal issue.

The Legolas in the Hobbit is lightyears away from the Legolas in the book. He is such a dick. I really didn't see that in the LOTR movies. Let's not forget that the Legolas in the book ran to go find the sun.

[siofrabunnies]

What cheapened Legolas in the Hobbit movies for me was that, not only is it a personal, romantic reason for hating dwarves instead of overcoming society, but he's learning someone else's lesson.

[(Anonymous)]

IDK. Her character was so poorly handled that I'd just rather forget about it entirely than rationalize how good or meaningful it was. Sorry, OP. :(

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not bothered by it, mainly because this is movie-verse and Legolas and Gimli's friendship was never that well developed or important in the film. At the end of the day, film!Legolas and film!Gimli's most important relationship was with Aragorn, not each other.

[(Anonymous)]

Completely OT, but I wish I could do that braid Legolas has. I suck at braiding.

[(Anonymous)]

I keep grudges so I'm still kind of peeved about some dumb comment she made like last year, I think.

[(Anonymous)]

It sucks because I really liked the idea of Tauriel, so why did she have to dragged down by a poorly handled romance subplot?

And I agree it also cheapened Legolas and Gimli's eventual friendship. Legolas was suppose to be wary about dwarves because of his father and he didn't know any better until he made friends with one.

Transcript

[(Anonymous)]

Image: Tauriel and Legolas

Text: I may be a minority of one, but I think that the Kili/Tauriel love doesn’t take away from legolas’ and Gimli’s later relationship, but rather makes it all the more poignant.

Because now he’s not just Legolas whose people distrust Dwarves for historical reasons, he’s Legolas who has experienced first hand how love between Elf and Dwarf led to suffering.

[(Anonymous)]

I admit that I didn't like the book at all (yeah, not my target - read it as a teen, tried recently - same) because of the pacing, writing style and it seemed ... shallow to me (ahem, last scene before Bilbo leaves Erebor especially, it had been a "HOW NOT TO WRITE" for me). I'm aware that it's just my feelings and other's think otherwise (perfectly fine xD, I'm not into high fantasy at all, not Tolkien did anything for me).

Moving on, I've watched all of the LotR just last year (lolol, late for the party), same as two Hobbit films (these along with my family who did not read the books at all). These had been fine films on their own (I honestly admired LotR special effects, cities, battles, characterisation and hated on the same in Hobbit).

Ahem, without further ado:

Hobbit honestly (as a film) needed some women. I knew there were none (besides the two flute players in Rivendell) in the rist film however, my family (my mum, aunt and uncle) did not. They spent half of the film trying to decide what the hell was wrong and missing. When the Dvarves and Bilbo were in Goblin caves my mum went "I KNOW! There's no women!". While aunt and uncle stared at her in relief commenting: "Yeah, that's just odd - why the hell!?".

Yes, we all love Tauriel when she did appear. Her romance with Kili would have been awesome if:

1) It was more developed.
2) Less cheesy - come on, her all glowy and smiley when healing? (Yeah, Arwen was similar in some parts :P).
3) Er, the creepy part where Legolas (her superior, despite being a friend) had an obvious unwelcome crush. And his father approved. VOCALLY. Then sent him after Aragorn because, yeah, go after another one :D!

Maybe there's more in extended version, but I doubt it. Otherwise, I agree with the Secret Poster.

[(Anonymous)]

no.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

The Kíli/Tauriel romance failed to grab me at all. I blame having an OTP for Kíli already by the time I saw DoS.

Legolas however pissed me off. In LotR he was a character I was not a huge fan of but he was nice enough that I didn't mind him. in this however? The only character that annoyed me more than him was Thranduil (who I already was inclined to consider an bastard anyway). The inoffensive Legolas of LotR has been irreparably stained by this ass.

But despite that, I can see your point - at least in part due to Lunabee's idea of how the relations between the trilogies worked.

[(Anonymous)]

My reaction to this secret was just one word.

NO.

[(Anonymous)]

Boy, people sure feel strongly about this. I hated Legolas in The Hobbit films, but since the ending's got me deep in the land of READ ALL THE HAPPY ENDING AU anyway, it's not like they're going to influence how I feel about non-Hobbit relationships. Much like how I don't let Elrond's weird dickishness in the LotR movies change my love for his character when I roll in the Silmarillion fandom. Legolas & Gimli are great, Kili & Tauriel are great. Compartmentalization!

[(Anonymous)]

I like this idea, but then I haven't seen the last film yet so my opinion may change. I'm nervous about watching the Five Armies because of all the bad things I've heard about it. I really liked how they handled Tauriel/Kili in the middle Hobbit film.

[(Anonymous)]

Unnecessary and only tangentially related opinion:

I very much enjoyed the Tauriel and Kili romance. It just didn't need to exist.

[arcadiaego]

I felt that too.