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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-02 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2952 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2952 ⌋

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[Tales of Zestiria]


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[Strange Magic]


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[Sleepy Hollow]


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[Star Trek: TNG]


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[Person of Interest]


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(Dangan Ronpa)


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(Splash, Daryl Hannah)


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[Once Upon a Time]


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[VH1's Hindsight]













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(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Because apparently bisexuals have to indicate in their label if they might be attracted to trans people, despite the fact straight and gay don't give you that info.

That said, everyone can use the label they like best. Just don't tell me mine is wrong.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-03 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
It's also pretty insulting to act like all trans men and women aren't actually men and women but fit into a third category. There are people who don't fit into either category of man or woman but not all trans people are in that group and some people really need to stop acting like they are.

Obviously it gets complicated if someone is attracted to a person's true gender but not their current body, but again, people should stop acting like this sort of situation is always the case unless you're pansexual.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt:

Yeah, exactly. And in the case of people who don't identify as any gender, why do we need to indicate if we might be attracted to them? Gay people might or might not be attracted to someone who's genderfluid but no one is telling them to get a clearer label.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
That's gonna be hard. For some people, what equipment your meat body came with is always going to matter in terms of what your interested in.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-03 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
I have to admit I don't understand that mindset at all. If a person has the parts you like then why does it matter if they weren't born with them?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
not everyone is going to get surgery to change their parts?
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-03 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I've had a lot of weird arguments about people who have had surgery so that's where my mind went, and my brain interpreted the "came with" as being past tense and implying it had changed.

I do understand that there are a lot of reasons that trans people may not have surgery.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT, yeah, that's what I meant.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'm trans and this is exactly why I dislike that usage of the term "pansexual," if you want to say you're attracted to non-binary people then fine, but if you're using it because, "I'm attracted to men, women, AND trans people!!" then you're an insulting asshole.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-02-03 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
That's one of my criticisms as well. Ironically, the "and trans and nonbinary people" definition of pansexuality manages to erase trans and nonbinary people who comfortably live with people who don't identify as pansexual.

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't thought of that but, yes that too!

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it might refer to possible attraction to trans people but I think that's just idiotic because if you understand that trans people are just guys and gals, same as anyone biologically born that way, then the label "bisexual" fits just fine.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt:

Yep, exactly.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
There are people who don't identify as guys or as gals, though.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Do we really need a special word to refer to people who are potentially attracted to people who don't identify as men or women?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT:

And? Straight and gay people might be attracted to androgynous-looking/presenting people, but their labels don't tell you that either.

Saying I'm attracted to women doesn't tell you which kind of women, if feminine or butch or whatever. Sometimes the "woman" you're attracted to turns out not to identify as a gender at all. Should lesbians call themselves pan-lesbian in that case?

(Anonymous) 2015-02-03 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, THANK YOU.