[ SECRET POST #2953 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2953 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

03. http://i.imgur.com/SdDQe2k.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the opposite with one particular character. I relate to him a lot. I'm super attracted to the character I usually pair him with. I'm dominant. And yet I hate reading fics where this character is anything but submissive.

[(Anonymous)]

Sometimes I'm completely confused by how fic writers pick D/s roles. Like, I've seen a bunch of A:TLA fic and art depicting Zuko as a top. I genuinely don't understand what show those people were watching.

[(Anonymous)]

That's how I feel when I see people writing Spike from Buffy as dominant. Just no.

Although, top? Do you mean dominant? Because those aren't the same thing and I can't recall any scenes in ATLA that gave me an impression on whether Zuko would or would not like to be penetrated.

[(Anonymous)]

Ack, sorry, I meant dom. I come to you from the distant past, where terminology was fuzzier. My bad. Point is, if Zuko were any more a of a sub he'd have a periscope.

[feotakahari]

Spike before or after character development? He certainly seemed to have a firm hand on Drusilla.

[(Anonymous)]

Even then, he struck me as a certain type of male submissive. He was still "love's bitch," as he put it. He still focused totally on her and what she wanted. He seemed to me then like the type of man who reads dominant at first glance, who fits all the "alpha male" stereotypes, but who is actually submissive.

[siofrabunnies]

See, I could see Zuko as a top or a bottom. Bottom because he'd want to just get away from all the responsibility, top because he'd want to feel in control of something. (or just because some people like to top/bottom, and it's not necessarily about issues)

I agree he'd much more likely be a sub, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Sometimes I deliberately write characters that seem like doms as subs, and vice versa, purely as a writing exercise. In fact, that's usually how I do it because it's more interesting to me.

Fanfic writers tend to follow each other like sheep. If one writer writes Zuko as a dom, and their fic is early in the fandom and widely read, that might become the fandom convention for no better reason. It doesn't have to make any kind of sense sense.

[(Anonymous)]

For me it's more that it has to be done in very, very specific ways for it to be in-character (well, dominant instead of submissive, but it's the same thing mutatis mutandis). It's so easy for it to wind up getting rid of all the things that make me identify with the character in the first place, you know?

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[(Anonymous)]

Image: a white guy in a suit and tie, with his hands handcuffed in front of his chest.

Text: NS: I really strongly relate to one of the main characters in my fandom

NS: I am sexually submissive

s! even though I feel like I should like it, I loathe fanfic where this character is written as a sub

idk if it just hits too close to home, if I feel like it would be unhealthy for him in canon, if its cause his most common shipmate has a canon power imbalance with him, I just hate it

its really popular to write him as a sub but I hate it
I do like seeing him as a dom though

i feel kind of alienated from the fansom cause its so popular

[(Anonymous)]

I relate to a character in my fandom whom is most often portrayed as dominant. Often, I question whether we are watching the same show.

[(Anonymous)]

I can relate, just because there's a character in my fandom that I pretty much only enjoy seeing as dominant. (I'm submissive in bed as well.) So when people write him as submissive, I wonder if they played the same game as me, because I can't ever see him being as submissive. (Fortunately though, my fandom mostly agrees with me on my view.)

[(Anonymous)]

I relate to that feeling of being alienated from a fandom because of how the fanfic writers portray certain characters.

For me, it's usually slashing characters I think are just good friends. Sherlock/John and Vince/Howard from the Mighty Boosh are the two strongest examples. Their fandoms are overwhelmingly based on slashfic between them. I can see why people do it because there's lots of comedy hints given in canon.

What's most confusing is that I don't even understand why I don't like the pairings. It's not like I don't enjoy slashing other characters with far less basis for it, and the first thing I look for in fanfic is the slash.

I give reasons why I don't like these particular couples (eg John's straight, Sherlock's asexual and even if he were gay John wouldn't be his type). But that that doesn't stop me pairing up the same guys in the pairings in even less likely ways (Sherlock/Lestrade for instance) so I'm not even consistent with that.

I suppose we all have our preferences which just can't really be rationally explained. Although the OP's reasoning (it would make that relationship abusive) seems like a good enough reason to me.

[dreamsofspike]

Neal Caffrey, right?

I like him as the submissive in fic because I feel like it suits his personality, he needs to be taken care of and protected and someone to take control, etc... and Peter makes such a wonderful dom for him.

But I get how the power imbalance could make it skeevy. :/

(of course that's a big part of why i like it... ahem)

And I could be totally off on the fandom but all the details seem to fit. :P

[annethecatdetective]

I feel you... There are times when I love reading or writing characters I relate to as submissive for personal appeal reasons, but not every character I relate to feels like a sub, and it would DEFINITELY put me off if there was a real power imbalance where the Dom had some kind of social or professional power over the sub instead of just the fun, healthy kind that two people agree upon between themselves.

I've also seen a lot of people write D/s relationships where I feel like the 'wrong' characters are in the Dom/sub positions, but I've been lucky enough that there's usually a pretty good balance of people who see it my way. Or I see the characters as being switches with different needs... but I only see them written in very strict Dom/sub roles.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel this way a lot, too--it seems like so many stories take a character who is super-vulnerable or literally subordinate (like in a workplace hierarchy) in a straight line to sexual submission, and it really, really makes me uncomfortable.

idk, though, I'm pretty uncomfortable with a lot of stories where it comes off to me like the sub is pretty much unable to cope with real life and the dom is always perfectly competent, all-knowing, and never wrong. I like hyper-competent, highly articulate and thinky subs and laidback doms. I'm doing it wrong, it seems.

[(Anonymous)]

Dear god please write me all of these articulate and thinky subs with relaxed, happy doms. I don't even care what fandom it is. Please please please.

[(Anonymous)]

Anon, are you me?

I have one fandom where I'm so skeeved out by the idea of the protagonist dominating my favorite character because the ficwriters seem to think they're doing something ~transgressive~ by directing the the protagonist's canonically overbearing, diminishing, almost predatory sexual behavior towards a man instead of a woman.

I also have an irrational rageboner for people who slot characters into dom/sub roles based solely on what the actors look like, without considering how the character behaves at all. Because we ALL KNOW that if you are an even slightly effeminate gay man, you MUST blush and cry while you take it from behind.