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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-03 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2953 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2953 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
"who the fuck does that, rewrite someone else's stuff."

Uhh.... *looks at all the movie adaptations of Marvel/DC comics, the film adaptations of novels and fanfiction in general* ...ummmm, yeah. Who does that?
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[personal profile] cenobitic_anchorite 2015-02-04 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I take your point, but you're aiming for the broadside of a barn where I was shooting for something a bit more narrowly themed. Marvel/DC in particular is a collaborative universe where changes, rewrites, reboots, are the contractual norm. They're something you agree to. Novelization tie-ins are also agreed to. Fanfic is unpaid and not often recognized by creators.

Fuzzy Nation/Little Fuzzy bothers me because it's an out and out rewrite of a novel by a dead author who didn't leave a note saying 'yeah, go nuts.' Which is a grey area, sure. In the end, it's professional fanfic, Scalzi got paid for it (don't we all wish we could) and as I said, it *irrationally* bugs me.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-04 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree with you but this actually makes a lot more sense to me than people who think that fanfiction is immoral but somehow becomes okay after the original creator dies.
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[personal profile] cenobitic_anchorite 2015-02-04 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is a really weird hangup for me, total outlier to my general opinions on fic and professional writing. This is a specific, individual example I'm railing on, not a broad statement. I don't know if I'm getting that across, because the anon took it as a generalized remark and now it seems to be perpetuating.

It's mostly because I grew up on old pulp science fiction and came across Little Fuzzy when I was very young, so Scalzi's rewrite hits for me a particular nerve. If it were ANY OTHER BOOK, I probably wouldn't give the same amount of damns. I might not even give one damn. But Scalzi is a weird point for me in general (his writing often doesn't click with me), and it was this specific book, so, I have a strange and specific response to this one scenario.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-04 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
That's fair. These reactions happen sometimes.

(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's not a grey area at all, though. One, Fuzzy Nation was in the public domain. Two, Scalzi sought and obtained permission from the people who held the rights to the author's estate before publishing it. I can get why that bugs you, but does it also bug you that people still publish (and remake for TV and movies) Sherlock Holmes stories? Those are in the public domain as well and most of it wasn't authorized by the estate.

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http://whatever.scalzi.com/2010/04/07/the-super-secret-thing-that-i-cannot-tell-you-about-revealed-introducing-fuzzy-nation/
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[personal profile] cenobitic_anchorite 2015-02-04 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
As I explained in a reply to Sarillia, this is a singular and irrational example that does not go towards my general opinion. I failed getting that across to you in my initial reply and meandered towards the general when I should not have. This bullshit quirk of mine pertains specifically to Fuzzy Nation/Little Fuzzy.

It is a 'weird little outlier that bugs me personally for reasons that would be nonsensical in any other context.' I am aware Scalzi got permission from the estate.

IT JUST BUGS ME.

It's not supposed to make sense.