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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-03 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2953 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2953 ⌋

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sarillia: (Default)

Re: OP

[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-04 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Not all parodies and satires are successful. I can't speak to this specific book, but the way people say "it's satire!" and leave it at that as though every satire does what it's supposed to annoys me. Sometimes they just don't work.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that's true. But I think the issue of whether or not it works can be considered separately from the issue of whether or not Scalzi wrote an undiverse cast because he's not very socially enlightened or because he made a deliberate choice to do so in pursuit of a parody. I'm not saying he succeeded in writing successful satire, I'm saying that he was attempting it.

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Re: OP

[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-04 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that those are separate issues. At this point I just have kind of a kneejerk reaction when people immediately start declaring that someone has missed the point instead of acknowledging that there's an argument to be made for whether the satire did its job or not, which you didn't do exactly but your hypothetical example you used to illustrate your point mentioned it.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this but not all satires don't work either. There are times when they do work and it's just incorrect to say that ironic bad writing is just bad writing. That's just, like, factually wrong.

I can completely get why that would grind your gears though. It pisses me off more than enough for myself.