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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
You are one of the very few countries in the world that use Fahrenheit. Why is this?

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
We were too cheap and lazy to switch over when everyone else did.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-02-04 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Because Fahrenheit is better for day to day use. Kelvin is better for scientists. Celsius is better for knowing an easy way to know when water freezes.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2015-02-04 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I'm usually behind the metric system all the way but Fahrenheit is one of our quirky US measurements that I will fight for.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Farenheit makes so much more sense for weather. It's far more precise than Celsius. 40 degrees Celsius can span roughly 3 degrees Farenheit, depending on the amount of rounding.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-02-04 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Because we never change how we measure things. We're also one of the few countries who hasn't switched over to metric.

Having lived for 10 years in a country that uses Celsius, I've grown up learning both. I don't really see the difference for day to day use. Unlike metric, which we should use because it is actually useful even for day to day.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm fine with changing to metric for distance, as long as we don't change to the ridiculous and inefficient European system for writing dates.

MONTH FIRST, people. It makes so much more sense.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-02-04 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
This I also agree with. Month first does make more sense. And the lack of the Oxford comma in European legal documents has been a particular frustration of mine in legal research. It just doesn't make as much sense most of the time.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
TRADITION! Tradition.

I don't think it actually matters either way tbh.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-02-04 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'm Canadian and I like Celsius for weather because of it's obvious ties with water. For cooking, science, and just about everything else, Fahrenheit is much much much better and accurate.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Really funny reading people saying the American way of measuring temperature, distance or of writing dates makes more sense or is more practical. It's just what you're used to. If you had grown up with the other system, chances are high that you'd like that one better.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
I agree in general but the American system of writing dates is legitimately, actually more practical. Because the most significant number in a given date is the month (because knowing that a given date is in February rather than July means that you know much more about the date than if it's on the 18th instead of the 7th), and so it makes most sense to put it first, so you can get the most significant information at a glance.

I'm not being a nationalist about this; I really do believe it's a non-trivially more practical way of doing things.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
I really, really don't see it. We look at things in block, so we see the whole date at once. For me, it makes the most sense to go from the smaller unit to the largest - day > month > year. You might like your way better and it's certainly not worse than the other, but it's also not better.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
DA

But for most things -- dates of birth, legal documents, appointments -- the actual date is as, if not more important than the month. If I have an important business meeting in July, then just knowing it's in July isn't going to help me much if I show up on the 17th instead of the 7th. I need to know the specific individual date. Same with someone's birthday -- if I want to send Great Aunt Maud a card, "it'll show up some time in March" isn't really going to go down too well.

Preferring one over the other is completely fine, but to weigh the month as having significantly more importance than the specific date within said month doesn't seem especially practical. At the very least, the components have equal weight.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
When I say a date, I say "It's February third, two-thousand fifteen." So when I write it out, I write it out like that.

On occasion, I will say "It's the third of February." But that's not my natural way of phrasing it.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no, I don't see that. I also use a language that doesn't have specific names for months, just "first month", "second month", etc. Everything ends up being numbers anyway so going from the smallest just makes sense.

Even in English... the traditional American way looks good for letters and such, but I personally prefer the European system for business. 4 FEB 2015 just looks more professional somehow.

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
There's various silly reasons why metric didn't catch on in the U.S., but I will defend the usefulness of Farenheit in that it's a measurement BASED ON HUMANS. This chart sums it up well: http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/FahrenheitVsCelsiusVsKelvin-67227.jpg
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-02-04 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly!

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Yeak, Celsius only gives you a range of about 30 degrees to talk about temperatures between freezing and really hot.

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[personal profile] purpleseas 2015-02-04 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Because it sounds all American and cool. That's why we do a lot of things.
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2015-02-04 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
The same fucking reason we decided that NATURALLY the best dimensions to have our paper in is a fraction and a prime number, that doesn't keep the same proportions if you turn it on its side. BECAUSE THAT TOTALLY MAKES SNESE.

(Yes, I am sore about this. I make all my comics at 100% size, and have you EVER tried to lay out panels in 8.5 x 11 size? I think that's what bad draftspeople have to do in HELL. It's why I freehand panels now.)

--Rogan

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(Anonymous) 2015-02-04 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
At the risk of sounding like an unedjucatid Amerikin, what do you mean the proportions aren't the same on its side...?

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[personal profile] bigpaw 2015-02-04 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Man I get so defensive about farenheit, with most measurements I think metric is great and wish we'd switch over, but I feel farenheit for the weather is just more broad! Like for celsius, 0 is water freezes, that's good, 100 is water boils which...water's never gonna be boiling in nature?? it's never gonna be 100 degrees celsius out. Where as 0 degrees and 100 degrees farenheit are both things that actually happen. IDK I'LL FIGHT PEOPLE OVER THIS.

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You are never around boiling water? You don't use it for example for the purposes of cooking?

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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-02-04 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Efforts to switch to metric met with a lot of asston of jingoism in the 70s and 80s, or was it a shitton of jingoism? Which is officially bigger, asston or shitton?

At any rate, adoption of SI in the United States swings back and forth with politics. Ford started it. Reagan killed it. Clinton picked it up again in 1992 (probably because NAFTA), then it was killed by Congress in '98. Some industries and some government sectors use SI for some things, most use "Customary" which is different from Imperial.