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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-04 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2954 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2954 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Phineas & Ferb]


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[Roger Delgado]


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(Dangan Ronpa)


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[All Time Low]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 024 secrets from Secret Submission Post #422.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds way better than the abridged version, not gonna lie. I mean it's obvious she's just ignorant about it, which makes a witch hunt all the more ridiculous

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
MTE

she didn't make a blanket statement, she said something dumb about a specific show

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently part of the problem is her usage of the word "blacks", which she tried to explain as it being a part of the older SJ vocabulary she had learned, and she hadn't heard it was now offensive, but that wasn't good enough either.

And honestly, I can't blame her? Like, just since I joined the internet:

- Trans* has gone from being the right way to do things to being transphobic

- Queer is becoming more reclaimed, and less of a slur online (though it's still a slur in many places, I'm not trying to deny that), to the point where I've seen people argue that, if you're not okay with "queer", you're actually cis/het, no matter how you identify

- Using the term "color" to refer to POC's was considered abhorrent (the correct term of "African American"... Even when the person in question wasn't American), but now POC is the "correct" terminology

So many changes in so little time.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I find it quite funny actually. It's like Stalinist or Maoist orthodoxy. Trans* is revisionist and incompatible with Marxist historical materialist science!

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Afaik POC is slowly falling from grace as well? I have seen people make arguments against it, at least.
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Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[personal profile] morieris 2015-02-05 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Are they doing it in a "When talking about a specific race, name that race, don't tiptoe around it?" (which is fair) Or a new argument.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Good. I've always hated that stupid fucking term. It's hardly any different to coloreds and deserves to be kicked out.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't Benedict Cumberbatch get lambasted recently for using "colored"?

I admit that baffled me a bit since POC is the standard term in SJ circles. Or is there a difference between "of color" and "colored"?
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Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[personal profile] morieris 2015-02-05 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
The term colored is basically what white people called us...pardon the monolithic take for a moment, but POC is something we picked ourselves. People is first, not color.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Something that American POC picked out for themselves, and only some people. Not necessarily something the rest of us like to use but god forbid you don't use American tumblr words for minorities.
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Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[personal profile] morieris 2015-02-05 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
That's a point too.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Is there some group of minorities out there that's chosen to use the term colored to refer to themselves? I hadn't heard of it.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
A few African American organizations still use 'colored' and 'negro' in their titles. I think it's partially a nod to their historical roots, but also because iirc black activists back in the day actually coined those terms and paved the way for their use as respectful words for black people in America.

Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

(Anonymous) 2015-02-05 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah but anon couldn't be the groups that anon is referring to, because those are the American minorities that have rejected the term and not the non-American minorities that they're appealing to, and also because those are kind of just well-known edge cases.
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Re: Tumblr's turning on Tamora Pierce

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2015-02-05 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
The only solution is to stop caring.