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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-02-06 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2956 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2956 ⌋

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12. [ WARNING for abuse ]



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raspberryrain: (woe)

[personal profile] raspberryrain 2015-02-07 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
The point is that Jessica, with spider-strength, slapped Clint, a normal. That's a power inequity, and one that isn't obvious from the visuals alone. If it had been Bobbi or Natasha, it wouldn't have freaked people out the same way.

You're right that's it's not particularly like a classic abusive relationship. There's no boxing him in, nor control psychology. But if we're going to be sensitive to any abuse of the weaker partner by the stronger partner, this looks like a case of that.

(I'm not a super-strict "no hitting, ever" person, and I think it's not meant to abusive in context, but I see their point.)
Edited (clarified use of "boxing") 2015-02-07 00:12 (UTC)
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2015-02-07 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Jessica hit Clint one time, under emotional duress as a direct result of him being an asshole, and in the context of a relationship that is otherwise emotionally healthy. To use the common litmus test, the best comparison would be Peter Parker slapping MJ upon finding out she cheated on him, in an otherwise non-abusive/unhealthy relationship. In both cases, I'd definitely classify it as an assault, but not abuse, by virtue of the fact it's a single instance of violence without any kind of psychological/emotional abuse or manipulation preceding it or otherwise occurring in the background.
raspberryrain: (yuck)

[personal profile] raspberryrain 2015-02-07 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I don't really disagree.

I do think that people who are bugged by the ONE TIME Pete hit MJ or the ONE TIME Hank knocked Jan down are right to try to be fair when it's a woman who's stronger.

But Clint is still standing. It's really not the same thing as those scenes. Jessica was measured and deliberate here.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2015-02-07 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
In a sense, a power disparity is the other major element of abuse. Sometimes it's external (i.e. if your partner has financial control over you, holding a visa over your head, child support, etc.), and sometimes internal (through long-term emotional abuse or psychological manipulation, they establish themselves as someone having power over you). Either way, it's someone who has power over you attacking you, and in many ways, that is what differentiates assault from abuse.